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Old 04-28-2012, 04:06 PM   #24976
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Yeah, it is not really a problem once you are familiar with the "manual of arms" for the 1911. 1911s are pretty rugged, and a good quality one is really great to shoot. Nothing quite like it.
I sure thought I was familiar with the manual of arms for the 1911 being as I've had one for over 10 years and it is by far my favorite pistol to shoot.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:52 PM   #24977
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One 1911s, how come they designed the safety so that you cannot operate the slide with it on?

Would it damage the internals somehow?
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:13 PM   #24978
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One 1911s, how come they designed the safety so that you cannot operate the slide with it on?

Would it damage the internals somehow?
You know, I never even thought about that. I don't think it would hurt anything. The Browning Hi-Power is the same way. Might have been to meet some military requirement.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:25 PM   #24979
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You know, I never even thought about that. I don't think it would hurt anything. The Browning Hi-Power is the same way. Might have been to meet some military requirement.
Kinda what I'm thinking, just seems strange they've never deviate from it except for guns like the p238.

I'd like to be able to have the safety on when I load up the pistol
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:49 PM   #24980
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NDEBT- that's the nicest gun in the whole world, as far as I'm concerned






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Old 04-28-2012, 06:17 PM   #24981
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Kinda what I'm thinking, just seems strange they've never deviate from it except for guns like the p238.

I'd like to be able to have the safety on when I load up the pistol
You know, the only other guns I can recall that have frame mounted safeties that don't drop the hammer that don't also lock the slide are the various CZ-75 clones.

EDIT: Also some rimfire pistols, such as the High Standards.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:23 PM   #24982
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There are some very nice guns here. This one is nothing exept for me. This is the very first brand new gun I ever got. It was Christmas 1975. I begged my Dad for a new gun and whe were pretty broke.This came from OTASCO (Oklahoma Tire And Supply Co) in about 1975 they are long gone A Savage94 they have buttons now instead of the lever. My dad paid for it on time or credit as we call it today.

I grew up and got more and better guns it became the truck gun. I reallly forgot about it for over 20 years thinking it just got sold or traded at some point after I left for college. I asked a few time but no one knew so I forgot about it.

A few weeks ago I went to move the old farm truck to my Sisters shop to try and fix it back up a 59 Chevy Apache. It was under the seat loaded. Like I said it is nothing but a cheap single shot but I thought I found a treasure of my childhood and will clean it up. My Dad is long gone and I willd say before I took this pic I held it up and said pow pow.
I grew up shooting one of those. Not as fancy as that one (doesn't have the checkering on the grip) but to this day it's one of my favorites.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:48 AM   #24983
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I grew up shooting one of those. Not as fancy as that one (doesn't have the checkering on the grip) but to this day it's one of my favorites.
The clink and the smell of the spent shell i will will never forget.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:28 PM   #24984
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Sounds like a whiney shop owner. I've owned hundreds of firearms and I'm a HUGE 1911 fan. You can dry fire that thing all day and you won't hurt it. In fact, anything without a firing pin located ON the hammer can be dry fired safely.

That being said, if you dry fire my brand new Dan Wesson, I'm going to be upset just because it's new and it's mine.
Well, I thought so myself, but have been researching dry firing after I bought a GSG 1911 .22. I guess it seems that if you dry fire a .22 (not a Ruger 10/22 though) you can rough up the back of the cartridge seating area (breech plate) and flatten out the head of the firing pin. In the GSG some people have actually broken the firing pin with repeated dry fires. So I am avoiding dry firing my two GSG .22s now. Anything else I dry fire anytime I want. I also found out that Ruger Mark II and Mark II .22 pistols have a stop pin for the firing pin that allows dry firing. As told in this video:
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:53 AM   #24985
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Well, I thought so myself, but have been researching dry firing after I bought a GSG 1911 .22. I guess it seems that if you dry fire a .22 (not a Ruger 10/22 though) you can rough up the back of the cartridge seating area (breech plate) and flatten out the head of the firing pin. In the GSG some people have actually broken the firing pin with repeated dry fires. So I am avoiding dry firing my two GSG .22s now. Anything else I dry fire anytime I want. I also found out that Ruger Mark II and Mark II .22 pistols have a stop pin for the firing pin that allows dry firing. As told in this video:
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Unfortunately even though it IS a 1911 clone of sorts, it IS a rim fire and one should NEVER dry fire a rim firs weapon.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:25 AM   #24986
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I have read that some people use a wall anchor for something for the pin to hit....never tried it myself.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=390503
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:24 PM   #24987
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1911 question.

I stopped at a local shop that had a Dan Wesson Valor and asked to see it. The store has a hard and fast rule that you can't drop the slide with just the slide release, you must use your hand to ease the slide forward and you can only test fire the gun once.

Are the high end 1911's that intolerant or is this some urban legend? I think nothing of dry firing my Springfield and dropping the slide, but clearly its much looser. I've had my Springfield for well over 10 years now and it shoots as well today as it did when I bought it.

I've always wanted a well built 1911, but if they are that finicky or susceptible to rough handling I think I'll be better off with my rough and always ready Springfield.
Solely an anal shop owner (rightfully so) who wants to keep the expensive inventory pristine so he can sell it without some schmoe saying hey man, this gun has been handled too much, can you either give me half off or sell me a NEW one? In reality, you'll probably never notice a 1911 has been slide dropped or dry fired 5 zillion times, but the owner of the shop doesn't want to answer any fool questions about taking money off for a handled gun.
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I have read that some people use a wall anchor for something for the pin to hit....never tried it myself.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=390503
if one really needs to dry firs a .22, you can get snap caps in .22 I THINK and you can always use a spent shell and rotate it by hand.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:31 PM   #24989
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if one really needs to dry firs a .22, you can get snap caps in .22 I THINK and you can always use a spent shell and rotate it by hand.
Im pretty sure they do, at least I see the empty spot for them on the snap caps rack at bass pro.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:58 PM   #24990
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Im pretty sure they do, at least I see the empty spot for them on the snap caps rack at bass pro.

I think the story goes that the hard plastic on the snap cap will bust after a while, but the rubbery plastic of the anchor will not bust....plus it is something you are likely to have around the house and if not it will cost you all of a few bucks to get a handfull.

It is one of those things that looks like it might work for cheap.
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