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Old 07-03-2012, 09:46 AM   #26071
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Have you had any range time with a SP101 though? A 6-shot revolver with a 4" barrel will just be a range toy, but that's probably 99% of what it needs to do. If a SP101 is as much fun to shoot, I'd rather get one of those so I can have a little more function.

If I got a S&W it would be one of these:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411545790
I own two SP101s, a 3" gun in 357, and a 4" .22LR. I like them both although the triggers are heavy and need work, and compared to almost any S&W are damned rough. The 357 is nice to shoot with 38s, kicks a fair bit with magnums.

You mentioned in an earlier post that you wanted to get something in addition to the GP100 that was concealable. While concealing a 4" barrel gun is certainly possible, and quite a few people do it, most tend to tilt to a shorter barrel. My personal favorite is this:



Model 66 2.5", this one is 1980 vintage. I don't shoot a lot of magnums out of it, but it'll eat 38s all day long and is just very nice handling and more accurate than any short-barreled revolver I've ever fired. I consider the S&W 19/66 to be the best balanced and nicest shooting revolvers ever made. As they say about them on the S&W Forum, "everything you need and nothing you don't!" Amen.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:25 AM   #26072
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No, but I don't talk to everyone I see either. I guess if I acted like a jackass I'd get more negative reactions.
If you can tell someone is CCW that person is not doing it right. Now if you have some sort of sixth sense, that is fine too. However, anyone carrying a firearm doesn't want anyone to KNOW they are CCW so never mention it to them or begin a converstaiton about guns with them unless you are away from anyone else.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #26073
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This makes me feel all OOOGLY inside...
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:31 AM   #26074
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Kind of like when I sling my Drag-bag over my shoulders for a short ride to the range...
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:11 AM   #26075
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If you can tell someone is CCW that person is not doing it right. Now if you have some sort of sixth sense, that is fine too.
I disagree. I think through training and practice people develop skills and get better at things. Being able to tell if someone is carrying is one of those skills that can be developed.

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However, anyone carrying a firearm doesn't want anyone to KNOW they are CCW so never mention it to them or begin a converstaiton about guns with them unless you are away from anyone else.
Obviously.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:31 AM   #26076
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I disagree. I think through training and practice people develop skills and get better at things. Being able to tell if someone is carrying is one of those skills that can be developed.



Obviously.
Not obvious to everyone ; someone a page or so back referenced that being able to spot the CCW crowd had led to some good gun conversations with those he spotted.

I personally can't imagine starting a conversation with someone I thought I saw print. To each their own I suppose.

Everyone should stop assuming that anything seen printing through a shirt is a roscoe. Otterbox cases are huge. People wear insulin pumps. They wear job specific multi-tools / cutters. The list goes on and on.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:37 AM   #26077
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Not obvious to everyone ; someone a page or so back referenced that being able to spot the CCW crowd had led to some good gun conversations with those he spotted.

I personally can't imagine starting a conversation with someone I thought I saw print. To each their own I suppose.
Which I think would make it obvious. If you're going to start a conversation like that it would best to be discreet. Seems you're agreeing with sniperx, which I was agreeing with.

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Everyone should stop assuming that anything seen printing through a shirt is a roscoe. Otterbox cases are huge. People wear insulin pumps. They wear job specific multi-tools / cutters. The list goes on and on.
I can't imagine everyone, or even many, does that.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:35 PM   #26078
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I own two SP101s, a 3" gun in 357, and a 4" .22LR. I like them both although the triggers are heavy and need work, and compared to almost any S&W are damned rough. The 357 is nice to shoot with 38s, kicks a fair bit with magnums.

You mentioned in an earlier post that you wanted to get something in addition to the GP100 that was concealable. While concealing a 4" barrel gun is certainly possible, and quite a few people do it, most tend to tilt to a shorter barrel. My personal favorite is this:



Model 66 2.5", this one is 1980 vintage. I don't shoot a lot of magnums out of it, but it'll eat 38s all day long and is just very nice handling and more accurate than any short-barreled revolver I've ever fired. I consider the S&W 19/66 to be the best balanced and nicest shooting revolvers ever made. As they say about them on the S&W Forum, "everything you need and nothing you don't!" Amen.

I could not agree more. The Colt python is a close second but the 19 just feels perfect for me.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:39 PM   #26079
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #26080
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I disagree. I think through training and practice people develop skills and get better at things. Being able to tell if someone is carrying is one of those skills that can be developed.



Obviously.
There are tell tale things some do whilst CCW but most who have been CCW for long don't telegraph.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:17 PM   #26081
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Um, I feel he is talking about a different type of "Drag Bag" than you are thinking.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:51 PM   #26082
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:22 PM   #26083
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Have you had any range time with a SP101 though? A 6-shot revolver with a 4" barrel will just be a range toy, but that's probably 99% of what it needs to do. If a SP101 is as much fun to shoot, I'd rather get one of those so I can have a little more function.

If I got a S&W it would be one of these:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411545790
Yes, I have shot the SP101 a bit. It, like the other Ruger revolvers is OK, but for feel, handling and "shootability" it can't compare to a K-frame S&W. Somehow, to me they feel a but crude and not quite finished.

The S&W you linked would be, IMHO, more fun than an SP101.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:59 PM   #26084
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Debating whether to start a new thread on competition info or just start here....

I would like to start competing I just don't have any idea what/where to start.

Should I start a new thread?

I'm looking for anybody with three gun experience but what I really want is to get info about the different classes of competition.

Fun and family oriented is the goal.
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:38 PM   #26085
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Debating whether to start a new thread on competition info or just start here....

I would like to start competing I just don't have any idea what/where to start.

Should I start a new thread?

I'm looking for anybody with three gun experience but what I really want is to get info about the different classes of competition.

Fun and family oriented is the goal.
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