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Old 07-23-2012, 08:26 AM   #26236
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So I am in the market for a concealed carry sidearm!

I am a long gun guy and really don't have too much experience with current semi-auto offerings. I've shot plenty of wheel guns over the years, formerly had a Browning Hi Power which I loved, a 1911 in 38 Super and currently have a Ruger P-whatever which is heavier than a gallon of milk. I need something to stay on my hip without pulling my pants down. If I had it my way, I'd wear a 1911 but that is just to much gun to wear comfortably and conceal.

Caliber not critical, 9mm, 40 cal, whatever.
Brand: whatever, Glock, Sig, etc.
XD in 9 or 40....DONE! Of course a SP101 in 357mag will fit the bill. DON'T get a super light 357 revolver or you'll find yourself never want ing to shoot it, and don't get a full size or sub compact anything or you'll find you can't shoot it well enough. A mid size 9mm or .40 will do wonders for both range play and CCW. Even a 1911 commander (lightweight) in 9mm or 40 would be great.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:32 AM   #26237
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So I am in the market for a concealed carry sidearm!

I am a long gun guy and really don't have too much experience with current semi-auto offerings. I've shot plenty of wheel guns over the years, formerly had a Browning Hi Power which I loved, a 1911 in 38 Super and currently have a Ruger P-whatever which is heavier than a gallon of milk. I need something to stay on my hip without pulling my pants down. If I had it my way, I'd wear a 1911 but that is just to much gun to wear comfortably and conceal.

Caliber not critical, 9mm, 40 cal, whatever.
Brand: whatever, Glock, Sig, etc.

Lots of semis out there that fit the bill, it's as contentious a topic as an oil thread

I carry a Kahr PM45, wifey has the PM 9. Both are nice pocket carry guns. That is my experience.

I'm sure many others will chime in about M&P compacts, Glock 30s, Kimber Solos, Rohrbachs et al, and other "best" guns.

I'd say go to your local shop, or better yet, a place that lets you rent and shoot, and pick one that feels the best to you, in your hand and on your body.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:34 AM   #26238
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So I am in the market for a concealed carry sidearm!

I am a long gun guy and really don't have too much experience with current semi-auto offerings. I've shot plenty of wheel guns over the years, formerly had a Browning Hi Power which I loved, a 1911 in 38 Super and currently have a Ruger P-whatever which is heavier than a gallon of milk. I need something to stay on my hip without pulling my pants down. If I had it my way, I'd wear a 1911 but that is just to much gun to wear comfortably and conceal.

Caliber not critical, 9mm, 40 cal, whatever.
Brand: whatever, Glock, Sig, etc.
Go look at a "fullsize" Kahr in whatever caliber you fancy.

About as thin as a 1911, but the advantage of a composite frame.

Also remember that the quality of the holster you get will make just as much of a difference in comfort and the "weight" of the gun.

I bought a don hume IWB for my 1911 at first. I still think its a good holster, but I can tell that the crossbreed super tuck is going to be much more comfortable and with a decent belt the weight doesnt seem to matter.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:41 AM   #26239
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XD in 9 or 40....DONE! Of course a SP101 in 357mag will fit the bill. DON'T get a super light 357 revolver or you'll find yourself never want ing to shoot it, and don't get a full size or sub compact anything or you'll find you can't shoot it well enough. A mid size 9mm or .40 will do wonders for both range play and CCW. Even a 1911 commander (lightweight) in 9mm or 40 would be great.
I have wheel guns; need semi-auto and it will be fired a bunch!

Lots of choices in the XD line; XD9655HCSP06 looks like a winner.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:51 AM   #26240
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The most important question is what's your budget? If you're going to spend $600 or less it's hard to beat a Glock. I'd suggest the G19 because it's small enough to carry and conceal on a daily basis, even in the summer. On top of that, it's large enough to take to the range and shoot comfortably. This will make you want to practice more, vs. a G26 or 27 that will be much less fun (IMHO) I carry my G19 with a 15rnd mag in the gun and two G17 mags that hold 17rnds each in a mag holder.

If your budget is much more flexible look into the HK P30 (for 9mm) and HK45 or HK45C for a .45ACP.

These are my personal favorites for carry. If you have any particular preferences they may lend to helping you choose a different firearm. I'd pick a S&W M&P over the Croatian hi-point (XD).

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Old 07-23-2012, 10:01 AM   #26241
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How about a Sig P238? It's compact, real sights, you can carry cocked and locked like a 1911, and it's the only "pocket" gun I've shot that's actually fun to shoot. There are a lot of very good .380 defensive loads, and I think it's a fine caliber for CCW.


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So I am in the market for a concealed carry sidearm!

I am a long gun guy and really don't have too much experience with current semi-auto offerings. I've shot plenty of wheel guns over the years, formerly had a Browning Hi Power which I loved, a 1911 in 38 Super and currently have a Ruger P-whatever which is heavier than a gallon of milk. I need something to stay on my hip without pulling my pants down. If I had it my way, I'd wear a 1911 but that is just to much gun to wear comfortably and conceal.

Caliber not critical, 9mm, 40 cal, whatever.
Brand: whatever, Glock, Sig, etc.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:30 AM   #26242
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How about a Sig P238? It's compact, real sights, you can carry cocked and locked like a 1911, and it's the only "pocket" gun I've shot that's actually fun to shoot. There are a lot of very good .380 defensive loads, and I think it's a fine caliber for CCW.
That's what I carry most of the time.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:51 AM   #26243
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That's what I carry most of the time.
I noticed that the gangsta's that the old man popped at the internet cafe didn't slow down too much from the .380 rounds...
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:08 PM   #26244
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I noticed that the gangsta's that the old man popped at the internet cafe didn't slow down too much from the .380 rounds...
I saw that video as well and would be curious to know what rounds the older gent used. I've got a Bursa 380 (PPK clone) which I shoot FMJ rounds for target practice. While I wouldn't want to stand in front of the sucker I can't help but feel FMJ wouldn't be that effective. Is that what the guy used which is why he had the results he did?

On the other side of the coin. Those two are in jail and didn't harm anyone so whatever type of round was shot out of that little .380 was enough.

Of course, I lean towards saving tax payers money of a trail and keeping those punks in jail.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:16 PM   #26245
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Probably cheap FMJ's or the like.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:07 PM   #26246
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How about a Sig P238? It's compact, real sights, you can carry cocked and locked like a 1911, and it's the only "pocket" gun I've shot that's actually fun to shoot. There are a lot of very good .380 defensive loads, and I think it's a fine caliber for CCW.
Friend has one with night sights. Great little gun. A little bigger than my bodyguard but not by much and is easier to hold and shoot.

I still kind of like the bodyguard as a pocket gun though. At least that's what I tell myself to keep from buying the exact same sig.
I do like that thing a lot.
Thinner grip is easier to conceal and double action trigger makes safety an option when holstered. (LCP and the like don't even have a safety other than the trigger BTW.)


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Old 07-23-2012, 06:39 PM   #26247
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On the other side of the coin. Those two are in jail and didn't harm anyone so whatever type of round was shot out of that little .380 was enough.

Of course, I lean towards saving tax payers money of a trail and keeping those punks in jail.

Made bail already!!??



Dawkins had a superficial wound in his left arm, but Henderson was shot in two places: his left buttock and his right hip.
Both posted bail and were released.
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I think I'll go mix up some +++P for my PPK. One thing, the 380 may not have stopped them, but it sure did speed up their exit!



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Old 07-23-2012, 07:27 PM   #26248
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I noticed that the gangsta's that the old man popped at the internet cafe didn't slow down too much from the .380 rounds...
True, shot placement could have been better, but he stopped the threat and no one else was hurt. Not a bad day when all said and done.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:54 AM   #26249
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I have wheel guns; need semi-auto and it will be fired a bunch!

Lots of choices in the XD line; XD9655HCSP06 looks like a winner.
I love my CZ75B, but that might be a little on the big side for you, so you might want to check out a P07 Duty.

I'm not affiliated with Bud's, it was just at the top when I googled it.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/58053

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I had an XD9 Subcompact but sold it to a co-worker. It shot well, and was well-made, but it's an extremely bulky double-stack with a chunky slide, and far to big for me to consider to carry. It wasn't a particularly fun gun to shoot, and not much to look at IMO. I consider the XD to be basically a Glock with some better safety functions; a gun that goes bang but nothing to get excited about. Good value though. The upside is 9mm, and lots of it (16 rounds in the extended mag). I think a commander size 1911 would actually be an easier gun to carry, due to the slimmness of the frame.

I really love the P238 though. It's the only thing I've found that is small enough to put in a pocket holster, yet is fun to shoot, has real sights, and feels like a "real" gun. I'll take cocked and locked over a heavy SA trigger for pocket carry any day, and the only thing fun about shooting most of the other pocket .380's is...nothing!



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Lots of choices in the XD line; XD9655HCSP06 looks like a winner.
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