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Old 09-13-2012, 09:10 AM   #26731
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I believe H&R makes that gun in 500 S&W Magnum. .
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:15 AM   #26732
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I'm going to try this gun with those Hornady 325gr.. Biggest rifle I use was a 30-06 with 180gr ammo.. the kick was as much as my 12gauge with slugs.. will 325gr ammo kick a lot more!??
30-06 is sharper.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:40 AM   #26733
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I'm going to try this gun with those Hornady 325gr.. Biggest rifle I use was a 30-06 with 180gr ammo.. the kick was as much as my 12gauge with slugs.. will 325gr ammo kick a lot more!??
My primary hunting rifle the last several years has been a lightweight 30-06. I handload and use 165 grain bullets loaded close to max. It has a pretty stiff kick. I've also shot a lot of 45/70 over the years, mostly a single-shot Browning 1885, but also some out of a Marlin Guide Gun. I shoot 405 grain bullets, both cast and jacketed. My cast bullet loads for the Browning are warmer than standard factory, and they kick a bit. But as has been stated here, 45/70 can range from mild to holy shit. I'd tilt towrd the mild for the Ms. I don't think a deer will be able to tell much difference.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:48 AM   #26734
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Mine tends to have that holy shit level of kick.

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:26 AM   #26735
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My primary hunting rifle the last several years has been a lightweight 30-06. I handload and use 165 grain bullets loaded close to max. It has a pretty stiff kick. I've also shot a lot of 45/70 over the years, mostly a single-shot Browning 1885, but also some out of a Marlin Guide Gun. I shoot 405 grain bullets, both cast and jacketed. My cast bullet loads for the Browning are warmer than standard factory, and they kick a bit. But as has been stated here, 45/70 can range from mild to holy shit. I'd tilt towrd the mild for the Ms. I don't think a deer will be able to tell much difference.
Same here, I traded a cheap snub gun for a 700 in 30-06 and love the thing.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:10 AM   #26736
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My primary hunting rifle the last several years has been a lightweight 30-06. I handload and use 165 grain bullets loaded close to max. It has a pretty stiff kick. I've also shot a lot of 45/70 over the years, mostly a single-shot Browning 1885, but also some out of a Marlin Guide Gun. I shoot 405 grain bullets, both cast and jacketed. My cast bullet loads for the Browning are warmer than standard factory, and they kick a bit. But as has been stated here, 45/70 can range from mild to holy shit. I'd tilt towrd the mild for the Ms. I don't think a deer will be able to tell much difference.
Somewhere on the web a few days ago I ran into a web page that studied penetration/killing power of various 45-70 cast bullet loads. It turns out that the best penetration was a load about 1500 fps. The explanation was that the bullet deformed less at that velocity passing through the animal, but still had good power and allowed the penetration right through all the vital organs. Certainly a 1500 fps load is fairly respectful of the shooter's shoulder. That is what I routinely load for my Guide Gun and don't have to use gas checks or fancy lube. I drop the cast 405 gr bullets from the mould and spray them with motorcycle chain lube and they shoot very well.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #26737
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Well, I "pulled the trigger" and ordered one of these little pop guns. Should be delivered next week.



But mine will be blue, not stainless.
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Lets hope it is error free.
Got it a few days ago and went to the range today. Popped 50 round of Federal through it with no jams, misfeeds, etc. But... if I had a real problem I'd still reach for the Glock.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:37 AM   #26738
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Got it a few days ago and went to the range today. Popped 50 round of Federal through it with no jams, misfeeds, etc. But... if I had a real problem I'd still reach for the Glock.
Unless it wasn't there...After a break in of 300 or so rounds with minimum malfunctions, the Walther should be a fine carry piece.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #26739
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Unless it wasn't there...After a break in of 300 or so rounds with minimum malfunctions, the Walther should be a fine carry piece.
Hoping for the best. I've heard 400 rounds, but what is a hundred rounds give or take. This will be the "beach carry". Nice, small little piece easy to conceal!

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Old 09-13-2012, 11:58 AM   #26740
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Hoping for the best. I've heard 400 rounds, but what is a hundred rounds give or take. This will be the "beach carry". Nice, small little piece easy to conceal!

I would call it a Codpiece piece.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:10 PM   #26741
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I can smell a fun weekend!!

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Old 09-13-2012, 01:13 PM   #26742
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Somewhere on the web a few days ago I ran into a web page that studied penetration/killing power of various 45-70 cast bullet loads. It turns out that the best penetration was a load about 1500 fps. The explanation was that the bullet deformed less at that velocity passing through the animal, but still had good power and allowed the penetration right through all the vital organs. Certainly a 1500 fps load is fairly respectful of the shooter's shoulder. That is what I routinely load for my Guide Gun and don't have to use gas checks or fancy lube. I drop the cast 405 gr bullets from the mould and spray them with motorcycle chain lube and they shoot very well.


Back in the early '60s my dad got a Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in 458 Win. Mag. He downloaded it to 45/70ish velocities and used it for many years, shot a lot of deer and several elk with those loads. They were a big (I think 500 grains) lead bullet and I think he said his velocities were around 1400fps. I remember shooting gophers with that gun one day.

He always said that a solid 458 caliber bullet passing through a critter was the same as a well-expanded 30 caliber. It didn't do a whole lot of meat damage either. I remember hunting with a friend who shot a deer at close range with a 25-06 and there wasn't a whole lot left. I had a similar experience a few years later with a 7mm Rem. Mag. Even the 30-06 can do a lot of damage. I'm probably going to hunt with my Guide Gun this year, and it'll be loaded with 405 grainers loaded to around 1500!
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:19 PM   #26743
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I can smell a fun weekend!!

What, no M-9 Bayonet? I'd make sure you tighten down that cheap red-dot really well. It can be unpleasant when it loosens up and flies at your face.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:30 PM   #26744
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What, no M-9 Bayonet? I'd make sure you tighten down that cheap red-dot really well. It can be unpleasant when it loosens up and flies at your face.
yo mama never told you if you have nothing nice to say just don't say anything!!
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:35 PM   #26745
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yo mama never told you if you have nothing nice to say just don't say anything!!
I have that same red-dot... just saying.
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