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Old 10-25-2012, 04:14 AM   #27286
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Fucking media! Always have to throw in the trump card of HIGH POWERED RIFLE.....bullshit grandstanding. They say that about a friggin .223!
I think that 223 is high power....heck you can shoot them in high power rifle matches.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:22 AM   #27287
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I think that those rounds are not "ap" rounds but just steel core.....the soviets had a different bullet for the ap rounds. It has been a while but I do reload for the cartridge....don't want that corrosive crap running in my SVT-40....if memory serves it uses a 311 bullet...the same as my british and french rifles (I think).....but I am at work and just can't remember for sure...so dont make book on that.

I shoot the surplus stuff in the bolt guns, but in the automatics I use my own loads, using partizan brass....it really is a good source for brass...for a lot of these odd ball military rifles....partizan makes some good stuff in 8mm, 54R, 7.5 french, 30 carbine...all of it reloadable....just buy a few boxes and after you shoot them start making your own....MUCH CHEAPER.

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Mosin Nagant is basically the same as a .308 sized round but the old AP rounds that were everywhere made them high powered in my book.

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Old 10-25-2012, 04:56 AM   #27288
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Thats my issue with the LC9- trigger pull the length of a Cecil B deMille film
But it's also one of the reasons I chose it for carry- one more level of safety (on top of the other half-dozen that Sturm R & co. built in).

I've actually gotten a little better. Ive found its more about attitude- rather than set, aim, feel the trigger, and squeeze deliberately I've gotten better results just "point, squeeze, bang". I don't need to borrow buildit's 50-yard gong yet, though
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:52 AM   #27289
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IDK, I can shoot an Officers Model almost as well as a full sized 1911 at targets from ZERO to 20ft.
I haven't ever shot an Officer's Model in 45ACP, but have a Commander sized gun that shoots very well. I do have a SA EMP in 9x19 which is basically an Officer's Model sized 1911, and it is very accurate and easy to shoot well, even at 20 yards.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:07 AM   #27290
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the Glock 26 is almost twice as thick as the Ruger. The Ruger is much easier to conceal if that's your goal.

The Ruger is also cheaper if that plays a part in anyone's buying decisions.

I'm a confirmed and an enthusiastic Glock owner, I really like them but one of the reasons I bought an LC9 when I compared it directly to a 26 was it's smaller/thinner size. I wouldn't expect it to be as accurate as a larger framed semi-auto pistol. Horses for courses and all that.
Yup, me too.

I'm not a skinny guy, so for IWB I needed a skinny gun...
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:24 AM   #27291
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IDK, I can shoot an Officers Model almost as well as a full sized 1911 at targets from ZERO to 20ft.
About twenty years ago I was shooting and carrying an Officers model off duty. I saw a Glock 19 one day and just for grins placed the Colt on top of the Glock. They were pretty much the same size, close enough to not matter. The big difference was that the Glock was a whole lot lighter which made it a whole lot more comfortable to conceal and carry. At that point I swapped them for carry. Yeah I did miss the idea of the 45 but at the same time 7 (with one up the spout) vs 16 made up a lot of that difference.

I liked shooting the Colt more than the Glock but a later on decided I would just carry the same thing for duty and off duty.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:29 AM   #27292
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Yup, me too.

I'm not a skinny guy, so for IWB I needed a skinny gun...

Have a look at the Ruger SR9c or the SR40c. Both very nice guns in 9mm and .40 capacity. Basically the same pistol with a different barrel. I have read only good reviews of these guns. With a magazine capacity or either 10+1 or 17+1 they should meet your CCW and home defense needs.

I currenly own the SR22P and I am very impressed on how accurate it is and how easy it is to shoot. The SR9c is next on my list.


Here is a nice comparison between the G26 and the SR9c: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487515


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Old 10-25-2012, 08:43 AM   #27293
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About twenty years ago I was shooting and carrying an Officers model off duty. I saw a Glock 19 one day and just for grins placed the Colt on top of the Glock. They were pretty much the same size, close enough to not matter. The big difference was that the Glock was a whole lot lighter which made it a whole lot more comfortable to conceal and carry. At that point I swapped them for carry. Yeah I did miss the idea of the 45 but at the same time 7 (with one up the spout) vs 16 made up a lot of that difference.

I liked shooting the Colt more than the Glock but a later on decided I would just carry the same thing for duty and off duty.
Didn't that also impact the weight savings? What's the 16 weigh vs 7?
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:19 AM   #27294
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Have a look at the Ruger SR9c or the SR40c. Both very nice guns in 9mm and .40 capacity. Basically the same pistol with a different barrel. I have read only good reviews of these guns. With a magazine capacity or either 10+1 or 17+1 they should meet your CCW and home defense needs.

I currenly own the SR22P and I am very impressed on how accurate it is and how easy it is to shoot. The SR9c is next on my list.


Here is a nice comparison between the G26 and the SR9c: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487515


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I like the SR9C, but there are tons of compacts out there that are double-stack. They are all FAR thicker than the LC9, or PF9 for that matter.

If I am really trying to hide it, without having to dress to carry, a single stack is perfect.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #27295
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About twenty years ago I was shooting and carrying an Officers model off duty. I saw a Glock 19 one day and just for grins placed the Colt on top of the Glock. They were pretty much the same size, close enough to not matter. The big difference was that the Glock was a whole lot lighter which made it a whole lot more comfortable to conceal and carry. At that point I swapped them for carry. Yeah I did miss the idea of the 45 but at the same time 7 (with one up the spout) vs 16 made up a lot of that difference.

I liked shooting the Colt more than the Glock but a later on decided I would just carry the same thing for duty and off duty.
If your OM was all steel, it'd be heavier than the Glock. My Kimber has an alloy frame, so it'd be close. I use McCormick mags, and they hold 7 rounds plus 1 in the chamber. My 2 reload mags are 8 rounders with the special base pads that space them out for the short grip. So I have 24 rounds total.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:21 AM   #27296
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Didn't that also impact the weight savings? What's the 16 weigh vs 7?
Nope the ammo was not enough to bring the Glock to as heavy as the Colt, especially when the Colt was loaded up as well.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:33 AM   #27297
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Taurus 745

Nice compact .45. 6+1. I don't care for the trigger pull as theres a lot of travel before you squeeze off a round but it fits my hand well and recoil is negligible.

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Old 10-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #27299
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Beretta Nano

So I broke down and bought a Beretta Nano a couple of weeks ago. It is an ungainly looking thing, and only a single stack to boot. I bought it to replace my wife's GLOCK 26 for purse carry. She is a Beretta fan-girl, so I figured that she would like it. She is okay with the style, but she hated the trigger. It is long and breaks about 7#. The GLOCK stayed in her purse, and the Beretta was almost relegated to safe queen/ trade status until I took it out to play.

The trigger took a couple of mags to master, but I figured it out. The sights are low profile but easy to use. I was reliably making hits on a 6" plates at 20+ yards in short order, and the recoil was mild. I shot 250 rounds in a session and the only painful part was loading the 6 round mags over and over again....

The best part of the Nano is that it is truly a "back pocket" gun for me. I prefer to carry a gun in my back pocket and the Nano fits my pocket perfectly- laying flat and not peeking out over the top. I made a black suede wallet holster with a flap to hide the sights that prints exactly like a wallet. I love the fact that I can have 7 rounds of 147 gr +P 9mm in the space where I would typically only be able to carry 7 rounds of .380 or .32.
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:52 PM   #27300
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Yup, me too.

I'm not a skinny guy, so for IWB I needed a skinny gun...

I picked up a Crossbreed Supertuck, and I will say that the LC9 is as close to invisible as you can get, even under a tucked-in dress shirt.

For that, I'm willing to "work" a little at learning to shoot it.
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