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Old 04-24-2013, 04:13 AM   #29536
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You have a Johnson for a truck gun....ahh I hope not.

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Old 04-24-2013, 10:36 AM   #29537
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deliver again!!

just got the 28" 12g barrel from the discontinued Topper Deluxe with screw-in chokes!!
With ejector and at only 5, 9.8lbs this things is so light and handi.. I bet is gonna kick!!
Love those single shots!!!

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #29538
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deliver again!!

just got the 28" 12g barrel from the discontinued Topper Deluxe with screw-in chokes!!
With ejector and at only 5, 9.8lbs this things is so light and handi.. I bet is gonna kick!!
Love those single shots!!!

Screams Turkey Gun!!!

My new LGS, in the same strip as my new store, is trying to talk me into the Remington 1911 over the RIA 1911. Having a gun shop less than 100yds away is going to be difficult!
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:57 PM   #29539
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Screams Turkey Gun!!!

My new LGS, in the same strip as my new store, is trying to talk me into the Remington 1911 over the RIA 1911. Having a gun shop less than 100yds away is going to be difficult!
What are there reasons? Fit and finish might be a little better. But it is hard to find a bad report on a RIA. Mine is utility gun., I goes everywhere with me so I did not want a fancy 1911 to worry about. It goes hunting, canoeing, hiking you name it. And it has never failed to go bang.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:01 PM   #29540
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Screams Turkey Gun!!!

My new LGS, in the same strip as my new store, is trying to talk me into the Remington 1911 over the RIA 1911. Having a gun shop less than 100yds away is going to be difficult!
I would bet they make more money on the Remmington. Reports of the remm aren't near as good from end users as they are from owners of the RIA. I have had three RIAs and all have been stellar. I have had a stock GI model, a tactical Model and a target model. Sold them all for more than I had into them. I'll get another tactical 2 tone model as soon as gun prices get back to normal.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:47 PM   #29541
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It happened to my rifle. I had several ADs with it until I figured out what the problem was. It would hang fire. It would fire when taking the safety off. It would fire closing the bolt. Scary stuff.

The problem was a dirty and gummy bolt. I had to disassemble the bolt and clean it. That fixed the problem. The rifle is 25 years old or so. I bought it new. I had never cleaned the bolt and the rifle had sat unused for a bunch of years. Evidently, the old gun oil I had used on the bolt stuck stuff together inside.
Have seen it (AD) happen. Just finishing up a PPD with Bush Sr. TACT unit officer was emptying his bolt gun and BOOM. Put a round through the roof of his Department van. Got some startled looks from a lot of LE folks in the area as AF One had gone wheels up about 5 minutes previously. Heard later it was an adjustment issue.
Personally I've owned and shot Rem 700s for over 40 years and no ADs. I did have a Light Varmint Win .308 that fired when I released the safety and it went in the safe and sat until I could get it to a gunsmith to be checked out. PO had adjusted it too light and I had it put back to between 3.5-4 lb pull.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:57 PM   #29542
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This has been a known problem with remmy 700s for ages. In fact, most of the law suits against Remington has been as a result of this known problem. To hear Rem explain it, it has been an issue fixed. I have not heard of it happening with any of the "fixed" design rifles but then again I don't really look for that info anyway. I no longer have an 700 based rifles other than the 710 which I hear never had that problem. Although, I never chamber a round until i need to when the rifle it pointing downrange at what I am ready to shoot.


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Old 04-24-2013, 03:30 PM   #29543
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This has been a known problem with remmy 700s for ages. In fact, most of the law suits against Remington has been as a result of this known problem. To hear Rem explain it, it has been an issue fixed. I have not heard of it happening with any of the "fixed" design rifles but then again I don't really look for that info anyway. I no longer have an 700 based rifles other than the 710 which I hear never had that problem. Although, I never chamber a round until i need to when the rifle it pointing downrange at what I am ready to shoot.


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Like I said, I own several M-700s and I have fired thousands of rounds through them. Never had any of them fire themselves. Never.

Now, as to NBC News and the rest of the media and the lawyers...it comes down to who do you trust? Hmmm....the oldest manufacturing organization in America (and one who's products I've used for decades), or the news media and trial attorneys?

Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:34 PM   #29544
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Like I said, I own several M-700s and I have fired thousands of rounds through them. Never had any of them fire themselves. Never.

Now, as to NBC News and the rest of the media and the lawyers...it comes down to who do you trust? Hmmm....the oldest manufacturing organization in America (and one who's products I've used for decades), or the news media and trial attorneys?

Seems like a no brainer to me.
Remington 700s and similar actions get gunked up because the disassembly of the bolt for cleaning is more complicated than some other bolt guns, and they don't get serviced very often. I can have any of my Mauser design bolts apart in less than a minute. The other advantage of the Mauser design is that the safety usually blocks the striker instead of the sear.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:08 PM   #29545
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No issues with any of my Rem 700's as well. How often do you hear..."I picked up the gun and it...just...went off!" All the time. But that's not what actually happened. That's what I call a ND in my book...and if this malfunction can't be recreated then I'd say human error.

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:21 PM   #29546
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From what I've read from people that actually have a Rock Island, they are pretty good guns, especially for the price.
I've worked on a shot a lot of RIA's. One of my buddies was sponsored by RIA and Armscor (the parent company) and their US headquarters is just outside of Vegas in Pahrump. The build quality is as good or better than any factory 1911 built before 2000 or so. Out of the box they are more reliable and hold tighter tolerances than almost any Kimber I have seen. They use investment cast frames and slides- but they are switching to forged. The investment cast parts will wear pretty noticeably after about 25,000 rounds (found that out from my sponsored buddy)- but only about 1% of shooters will ever shoot that many rounds through a gun.

If I was in the market for a 1911 to use, not just to look at- I would seriously consider an RIA.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:51 AM   #29547
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Will switching to forged increase cost? Who will be doing the forging? Will they be buying their forged parts from Brazil?
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:08 AM   #29548
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The investment cast parts will wear pretty noticeably after about 25,000 rounds (found that out from my sponsored buddy)- but only about 1% of shooters will ever shoot that many rounds through a gun.

If I was in the market for a 1911 to use, not just to look at- I would seriously consider an RIA.
When looking at a used piece, how can I tell how much it has been fired?

In case I was to be eying one that had 20K+ rds thru it?
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:26 AM   #29549
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The investment cast parts will wear pretty noticeably after about 25,000 rounds (found that out from my sponsored buddy)- but only about 1% of shooters will ever shoot that many rounds through a gun.

Well, I guess I may need to keep a closer eye on mine in the next few years, and either replace parts accordingly or just replace the gun if need be.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:26 PM   #29550
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Will switching to forged increase cost? Who will be doing the forging? Will they be buying their forged parts from Brazil?
Forging shouldn't really add much or any cost. RIA is still positioned as a value brand- so I can't see them running up prices too much. They have the forging equipment in the Phillipines where they are made. They have recently started using forged slides and should be using forged frames by the end of 2013.
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