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Old 06-06-2013, 05:51 PM   #29761
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Sorry for the poor quality cell phone pic, but here's my dilemma.
I traded for this beat to shit 870, refinished the wood (the furniture it has on it now), and made it shine.
I ordered a spare set of furniture for my buddy (college graduation gift, he hates the plastic on his 870), and refinished it as well. The new wood is laminate and the wood I have on my 870 is birch I'm guessing?

I like the look of the laminate a lot more than the birch, but I like the idea of having solid wood instead of pressure glued pieces... I think my buddy would like the regular looking birch better.

Here is the bottom furniture as it was purchased from ebay, definitely not new, but could have been worse:

What do you guys think looks better?
Birch will never look as nice as Walnut. I'd definitely get some furniture from a Police or Wingmaster model.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:57 PM   #29762
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Birch will never look as nice as Walnut. I'd definitely get some furniture from a Police or Wingmaster model.
I know nothing really about wood types. I'm a welder.

Which is stronger? Birch? Walnut? Laminate?
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:21 PM   #29763
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I know nothing really about wood types. I'm a welder.

Which is stronger? Birch? Walnut? Laminate?
Arguably probably the laminate. Birch is usually considered cheaper then walnut. They both are strong but generally walnut looks a nicer. It's darker with tighter grain. Birch doesn't take to stain as nicely as walnut. Birch can look nice if it has stripes to it though

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Old 06-06-2013, 06:26 PM   #29764
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Huh. Are those stripes in the wood grain naturally or applied by a certain process with the stain?

If the laminate is stronger, I'm keeping that. And I think it has a neater look to it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:43 PM   #29765
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Huh. Are those stripes in the wood grain naturally or applied by a certain process with the stain?

If the laminate is stronger, I'm keeping that. And I think it has a neater look to it.
It's naturally found in the wood but brought out by the type of cut. (quarter sawn)

The laminate will be stronger because they are able to arrange the different woods so they resist warping. The glue itself will also help. But unless you're hunting where it's wet or really humid all the time, I don't you'll have any issues with Birch or walnut. Walnut looks really nice though. It has a nice warm look to it.

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Old 06-06-2013, 06:53 PM   #29766
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Well, the Scorpion is winging its way back to Sig for the fresh cerakote and a few tricks. I asked if they can redo the slide black and the frame back to the standard Desert Tan so it'll look tricker and be a little more forgiving with the retention holster I use. It'll also be the only two tone Sig Sauer Scorpion 1911R Sig has ever done! In case nonya have seen a Sig Scorp...here's mine when I got it.

That is a beautiful pistol, I love the green/black combo. It's subtle and not overdone like some are. Is it a 1911?

Range day with the .22s. Ammoes being as expensive as it is, I usually run 20-30 rounds through the XD-40 and 870 to keep em fresh and spend the rest of the day on the 22s. 400 rounds of .22 is cheap enough to do that. 400 rounds of .40cal will get you broke real quick.

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Old 06-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #29767
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Huh. Are those stripes in the wood grain naturally or applied by a certain process with the stain?

If the laminate is stronger, I'm keeping that. And I think it has a neater look to it.
I vote for the laminate. It is stronger, and weather and oil resistant. It also looks better than the wood I see pictured here. Functionally, on a gun like an 870, any of the stocks you are looking at will be fine in normal use. If you are going to expose the gun to harsh conditions, you might have some issus with the natural woods.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:08 PM   #29768
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I'd love to have a 19 or 66 in 3" iteration, the nice thing about it compared to the 2.5" is that it uses a full-length ejector rod, making reloads more trouble-free. But they are a little hard to come by, and tend to be expensive when you do come across them.

I have a 624 from the mid-80s in Lew Horton variety, very similar to the pictured 29 but in stainless and 44 Special. It was my office desk-drawer gun from 1985 until circa 2008 when it went into the safe and was replaced by something else.
You might try looking for a 13 or a 65 in 3". These are really nice for carry since they have the fixed sights and therefore a smoother profile. Might be easier to find and maybe a bit less spendy as well.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:29 PM   #29769
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You might try looking for a 13 or a 65 in 3". These are really nice for carry since they have the fixed sights and therefore a smoother profile. Might be easier to find and maybe a bit less spendy as well.
The only problem with fixed sights is that they're only accurate with one bullet weight, a 158 grain. Anything less, they'll shoot low. The answer is a set of Crimson Trace Lasergrips, which can be adjusted for anything.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:05 AM   #29770
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I love the look of guns with "tiger stripes" My IBM M1 Carbine has some stripes that show real well in the daylight. Had a chance at a M44 that was just fantastic looking....but I was being a responsible adult at the time and did not buy it.....gotta quit doing that one day.

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Arguably probably the laminate. Birch is usually considered cheaper then walnut. They both are strong but generally walnut looks a nicer. It's darker with tighter grain. Birch doesn't take to stain as nicely as walnut. Birch can look nice if it has stripes to it though

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Old 06-07-2013, 10:33 AM   #29771
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You might try looking for a 13 or a 65 in 3". These are really nice for carry since they have the fixed sights and therefore a smoother profile. Might be easier to find and maybe a bit less spendy as well.
That's a good thought, thanks. I have both a 19 and a 66 in 2.5". Both are early '80s vintage so are pinned and recessed. The 66 is my favorite carry gun and I don't feel at much disadvantage over the .5" difference in barrel length, plus I kinda figure that if the situation hasn't sorted itself out in 6 rounds, I'm probably fooked in any event, so the reload issue isn't a real big deal for me. In fact, even though it probably goes against CCW dogma, I don't typically carry extra ammo or reloads when I CCW. I know, I know......
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #29772
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[QUOTE=Off the grid;21586310]That is a beautiful pistol, I love the green/black combo. It's subtle and not overdone like some are. Is it a 1911?



Yes, a Sig Sauer 1911R Scorpion. Thanks I like it too. I'll know anyday if they did it to my specs or not, which ar black slide, same as in the pic for everything else. It is at Sig right now getting re-coated or on its way back as I write this.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:45 PM   #29773
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That's a good thought, thanks. I have both a 19 and a 66 in 2.5". Both are early '80s vintage so are pinned and recessed. The 66 is my favorite carry gun and I don't feel at much disadvantage over the .5" difference in barrel length, plus I kinda figure that if the situation hasn't sorted itself out in 6 rounds, I'm probably fooked in any event, so the reload issue isn't a real big deal for me. In fact, even though it probably goes against CCW dogma, I don't typically carry extra ammo or reloads when I CCW. I know, I know......
I know just how you feel. I had a 64 that was my favorite carry gun, but sadly let it go. Now if I am carrying off duty, it is likely to be my NYPD 36 Chief's Special. And I know, I know....no extra ammo. Now if I was back in Miami, LA or NYC, it would be different, but here in paradise (LOL), not so risky, as of yet.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:22 AM   #29774
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I know just how you feel. I had a 64 that was my favorite carry gun, but sadly let it go. Now if I am carrying off duty, it is likely to be my NYPD 36 Chief's Special. And I know, I know....no extra ammo. Now if I was back in Miami, LA or NYC, it would be different, but here in paradise (LOL), not so risky, as of yet.
I sometimes carry a 340PD, a J-frame made of Scandium and titanium, so very light-weight, in a pocket holster. Only 5 shots, like your 36, but again, I believe I read somewhere that the average SD gunfight takes place within 5 yards and that between 2 and 3 rounds are fired. Again, I understand that averages are just that, but I'm trying to recall a SD shooting that got any publicity where the good-guy ran out of ammo while the fight was still ongoing. Maybe it has happened, probably has, but I don't think it is as commonplace as winning the PowerBall.

I did get an 8 shot 327 to carry on my bike, both moto and bicycle. Nice to have a few extra rounds, but the real life practical necessity is undoubtedly very remote and hypothetical.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:27 AM   #29775
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The only problem with fixed sights is that they're only accurate with one bullet weight, a 158 grain. Anything less, they'll shoot low. The answer is a set of Crimson Trace Lasergrips, which can be adjusted for anything.
At any distance you can see the dot from the laser, the difference in bullet weight will not matter.
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