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Old 06-10-2013, 03:14 PM   #29791
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I've got one of those with a bobbed trigger. It makes a great "packin pistol" for desert adventures. First chamber has snake shot, the rest have .38Spl +P, 158 gr SWC.
Ya mean bobbed hammer?
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:37 PM   #29792
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As for the 6.5-284, I have three questions for you....

1. Are you rich?
2. Do you reload?
3. How far are you looking to shoot and what will you be shooting at?
1. No. But I don't have kids, and I stayed in a Holiday Inn.
2. More and more every year. I have recently hit the realization that I can't support my shooting habit anymore unless I make reloading a serious operation.
3. Paper and coyotes. The further, the better.

A quick run through Midway, and I found Norma brass available, which is better than I can say for 223 most days. It isn't cheap, but this isn't a gun I would plan on putting major rounds through. A 500rd batch would last me a while.

I'm still considering. The barrel life does concern me though.
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:39 PM   #29793
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I competed at 1000yds with a 6.5x284 for almost a decade before I switched to 6BR. Barrel life is a concern. I rarely got more than 500rds through my Kriegers before accuracy dropped off to the point of replacement. Of course, this is competition accuracy, not hunting accuracy.

If you're shooting yotes, then you can easily get 1500+ out of a quality barrel and still keep bullets in the breadbasket of a yote at 800yds+. But for that duty, I'd just stick with a 6.5x55 and enjoy longer barrel life with the same practical accuracy for your needs. I killed a pair of coyotes in my back pasture at 835m (lased) with my 6.5x55 T3 a few weeks ago:

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Old 06-10-2013, 05:48 PM   #29794
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I competed at 1000yds with a 6.5x284 for almost a decade before I switched to 6BR. Barrel life is a concern. I rarely got more than 500rds through my Kriegers before accuracy dropped off to the point of replacement. Of course, this is competition accuracy, not hunting accuracy.

If you're shooting yotes, then you can easily get 1500+ out of a quality barrel and still keep bullets in the breadbasket of a yote at 800yds+. But for that duty, I'd just stick with a 6.5x55 and enjoy longer barrel life with the same practical accuracy for your needs. I killed a pair of coyotes in my back pasture at 835m (lased) with my 6.5x55 T3 a few weeks ago:

What are you doing with your barrels when you shoot them out?
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:06 PM   #29795
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What are you doing with your barrels when you shoot them out?
Depends. Sometimes I'd just move it to another rifle and use it for hunting. Others I'd give away or sell. Some got chopped and rechambered. Some got tossed in the garbage.

I've been out of the rifle games for almost 6 years now. I doubt I'll ever shoot out another barrel. From now on, it's just varmint control and trap/skeet for me. Since my kids were born, I have no desire to spend 20+ hours a week at the range.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:25 PM   #29796
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Ya mean bobbed hammer?
umm yes....
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:23 PM   #29797
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I'm still of the mindset that 6.5mm is overkill for varmint work - including coyotes. Double duece bullets are a lot cheaper and with the right combination will shoot just as flat as any 6 or 6.5mm. You'll get a little more wind drift with the 22 but that's easily accounted for.

For me the best all-around, do-all varmint cartridge is the .22-250 Ackley Improved with a fast (1-8") twist barrel. I can shoot most anything from a 45 to 80 grain bullet, I can shoot factory 22-250 ammo in a pinch so I don't "have to" handload everything, and barrel life is still fairly reasonable at around 2 to 3k rounds before the accuracy starts to fall off.

My long-range prairie dog/coyote load is pushing an 80 grain Nosler at 3,380fps. With a 200 yard zero my drop at 1,000 yards is only 21.6 minutes (verified) at an elevation of 3,300 ft. Wind drift is 7.3 MOA @ 1,000yds (calculated) with a 10mph/90-degree crosswind.

My standard every day load (pretty much anything out to 500 yards) uses a 65 grain Sierra Gameking bullet propelled to 3,725fps. This particular bullet was originally designed for the Australian market for use on kangaroo's and it hits like a sledgehammer. Great bullet for you southern deer or hog hunters using a .224 cal cartridge.
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Old 06-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #29798
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Well, around here varmints range from squirrels in the pecan orchards to 400lb feral hogs near the feed barn with everything from coyotes to whitetail to feral cats in between, so the 6.5 strikes a good compromise.

If yotes were the biggest nuisances around here, I'd just use a .22Mag.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:38 AM   #29799
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Well, around here varmints range from squirrels in the pecan orchards to 400lb feral hogs near the feed barn with everything from coyotes to whitetail to feral cats in between, so the 6.5 strikes a good compromise.

If yotes were the biggest nuisances around here, I'd just use a .22Mag.
When I hunted in Germany, you were pretty much required to carry a caliber that could kill anything you might encounter. Yes, I killed many a 40lb Rehwild (mini-deer) with a .30-06. Ridiculous.

However, in the world of varmint hunting, I'm just as likely to come across a feral hog as a coyote when trying to clean up the varmints. Calibers in the 6.5 range do strike a good compromise between the two, hence my interest in it.

I appreciate all the input. I'm probably going to invest in the Norma. I get back home in a couple weeks and plan on seeing what my local gun store can find. Heck, they've got so many guns in back, you never know what they might walk out with when you give them an idea.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:08 AM   #29800
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:38 PM   #29801
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:10 AM   #29802
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Your dad has talent.

I got a real nice sewing machine for leather and such...most I ever did was fix my car seats.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:50 AM   #29803
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Impatiently awaiting the return of my Sig Scorpion.....should be on its way back by now......
Did you break your Scorpion?
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:26 AM   #29804
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Your dad has talent.

I got a real nice sewing machine for leather and such...most I ever did was fix my car seats.

he did this type of thing for years and years as a hobby, this was the last thing he made 15 years ago.

all hand stitched and carved, he didn't have a machine.

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Old 06-13-2013, 02:13 PM   #29805
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Did you break your Scorpion?
No, I am one of the unfortunate ones who got one that had the finish that was done with the bad batch of Cerakote. They are refinishing it free, and installing a new front sight since mine grew a tad bit dark.
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