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Old 12-21-2013, 12:40 PM   #9271
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I just want an oompa loompa to put on my cycle. Those guys can do anything!
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Old 12-21-2013, 06:37 PM   #9272
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I too am in the camp of if you understand navigating, e.g. map and compass, then understanding the GPS just comes along for the ride. Sure, someone ignorant in navigational skills can use a GPS but they'll never really "get it" until they learn how to navigate. The GPS is just a tool. The knowledge isn't so much in how to use a hammer when you're trying to build a house.
REI has offered a map reading class in the past, and they may again. I did find this GPS class on the schedule. It could be interesting.

http://www.rei.com/event/43635/session/85593

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Old 12-21-2013, 07:22 PM   #9273
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I just want an oompa loompa to put on my cycle. Those guys can do anything!

Have you checked the Touratech catalog?


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Old 12-21-2013, 07:49 PM   #9274
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Have you checked the Touratech catalog?


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Nope do they carry them?
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:57 PM   #9275
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Not speaking to the off road GPS software of the phone, but if you really want a smartphone attached to your bike there are solutions for that on the market. The Gs4 Active or the standard Gs4 with a rugged case would work? I have had a smart phone on my bikes for the past 9 years going back to WinMOs. Smart phones are great for wireless music, turn by turn navigation and even heads up on speed traps (thanks waze). Offline maps leave something to desired though that software George99 mentioned looks promising.

The basic OSM program is free and you can download up to 8 maps, plenty enuff for most of us. I purchased the full OSMAND+ 'cause I use it all over the country and it's a PITA to delete a map to make space for another state.

Before the purchase, tho, I carried my Samsung with to Cambodia and Thailand and used the free version to tour over there. Worked a charm.

There are other similar programs out there but this one is working for me. Just about everywhere I've been, off-road and on, shows up on the maps.

Far as I know, OSM is only available for Android, not I-Phone.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:58 AM   #9276
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the part about a readable screen and power consumption, thats why i'm holding out for the earl. E ink is awesome in any condition, and uses almost nothing for power, sure its black and white, but i dont need a color screen for gps
E-ink is very readable and has improved in contrast a fair bit too, but is *very* slow so it doesn't handle motion at all well. Screen refreshes take hundreds of milliseconds. I'm not sure that's going to be good for a modern mapping device. If the resolution is great enough color isn't essential but it does add a lot to the information content on a mapping unit.

We'll see whether e-ink finds a niche in the vehicle GPS market space. Personally, I'm not that optimistic.

I'm a bit pessimistic about smart phones too. I've seen good ones but they don't come close the good displays I've seen.

I'm also waiting until we hear from someone who gets a ticket for using their smartphone while riding/driving in a place where it's illegal and trying to explain to the cop that they were just using the GPS so it should be ok....
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:09 PM   #9277
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E-ink is very readable and has improved in contrast a fair bit too, but is *very* slow so it doesn't handle motion at all well. Screen refreshes take hundreds of milliseconds. I'm not sure that's going to be good for a modern mapping device. If the resolution is great enough color isn't essential but it does add a lot to the information content on a mapping unit.

We'll see whether e-ink finds a niche in the vehicle GPS market space. Personally, I'm not that optimistic.

I'm a bit pessimistic about smart phones too. I've seen good ones but they don't come close the good displays I've seen.

I'm also waiting until we hear from someone who gets a ticket for using their smartphone while riding/driving in a place where it's illegal and trying to explain to the cop that they were just using the GPS so it should be ok....
I think it's talking on it while driving that gets the ticket Just never say anything to it
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:45 PM   #9278
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I'm pretty confident that there are people that will be ticketed for using the GPS in their smart phone. There are at least 12 states that only allow hands free.

So far there's not a lot of restrictions on GPS's. Mostly just about where they're located although New Jersey "State Assemblyman L. Harvey Smith has introduced a bill that would “prohibit the manual operation of a global positioning system (GPS) device or similar navigation device by the operator of a moving motor vehicle”... Under the proposed law, drivers would be allowed to only use voice-activated systems to program the devices while a vehicle is in motion."

They're even talking about "cracking down" on "texting" here in AZ next year by giving speeding tickets saying that you are driving faster than prudent due to using a device. In my experience with the all too frequently overzealous AZ cops, it's not a big stretch to see one ticketing someone using their device as a gps. We'll see....


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The Arizona Department of Public Safety plans to crack down on drivers who are distracted by texting or their cellphones in general. The enforcement effort will begin in January and be accompanied by an education campaign, DPS spokesman Bart Graves said...
...The Legislature has repeatedly rejected a ban on texting while driving. But Graves says a state law on "speed not reasonable and prudent" will be used to cite distracted drivers. "Any speed is not reasonable when you're texting, because you're not fully in control of your driving," Graves said....
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #9279
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screw it, i'm gonna get google glass, heads up and hands free. and i saw a new oakley goggles that tie into a smart phone with bluetooth maybe? had a heads up gps display and other things.
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:11 PM   #9280
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screw it, i'm gonna get google glass, heads up and hands free. and i saw a new oakley goggles that tie into a smart phone with bluetooth maybe? had a heads up gps display and other things.
Better read this first, SPOT.
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:18 PM   #9281
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well that didnt take long did it?
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:18 AM   #9282
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Let's ride soon, this Sunday here it is:

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Merry Christmas Paul.
Thanks for the invite! In LAX for the holidays, but what about doing the Coke Ovens and anyone else next Sunday?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:25 AM   #9283
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The basic OSM program is free and you can download up to 8 maps, plenty enuff for most of us. I purchased the full OSMAND+ 'cause I use it all over the country and it's a PITA to delete a map to make space for another state.

Before the purchase, tho, I carried my Samsung with to Cambodia and Thailand and used the free version to tour over there. Worked a charm.

There are other similar programs out there but this one is working for me. Just about everywhere I've been, off-road and on, shows up on the maps.

Far as I know, OSM is only available for Android, not I-Phone.
How do you get the gps tracking feature on the tablet to work without being connected to the internet? I downloaded OSM on my tablet and it seems ok. Specially for use with the earth view but I can't get it to locate me without being logged into a network.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:47 AM   #9284
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Couldn't you use your cellphone as a hotspot, or are you talking about when you have zero service?
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:49 AM   #9285
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I don't have a smart phone.

I thought the device would pick up your coordinates independently of service. Like all GPS' do.



If they don't, then that's a BIG problem.
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