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Old 01-26-2013, 01:15 PM   #15841
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Thanks Kiko- The footpeg has already been done and I'm hoping to be able to afford an 8" light before June.

Achile- I'm hoping to have the time for a complete disassembly. What am I looking for with the cam chain? Is it stretch? How do you tell?

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The cam chain is very resiliant. It may stretch over time.(60 k km+)
The problem is that I found two pigs with seized links, but they were sitting around for a while.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:25 PM   #15842
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The problem is that I found two pigs with seized links, but they were sitting around for a while.[/QUOTE]

Got it. Worth a look. Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #15843
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Here is a pic for you. Hi and low marks are black ink marked on the steel oil return tube next to the clear sight tube.These correspond to the marks on the dipstick.
Uhh, sorry, yay & nay Hontri.
When I saw that pic my first thought was "No way!!", and went checking - erm, correct, 'scuse me Squire
Your markers however correspond to the "correct" level and the "end-of-dipstick" level - and calling the latter the 'low' mark is somewhat misleading I think.
I'd regard "low" about where the cabletie is in your pic, and when mine is there it most certainly will get a slosh of oil added - this is (very roughly) halfway the height of the steering stem, in fact I would say this is a "too low" mark already.
But PineyMR, a sight tube makes life a damn site simpler - add oil if it's not at the 'normal' mark rather than waiting until you can't see it anymore during riding. The correct qty of oil also keeps the oil hence engine cooler, pls keep in mind that the ali frame acts as a (very good) oil-cooler.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:23 AM   #15844
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plus 1 ...what BuRPsa said

remembering oil level will drop when on the fly so i have a mark for on the fly full ....a mark for needs oil when stopped and a mark for full

best thing to add to any xrr ...i also carry 2 bolts as backup of god forbid the line splits or a fitting works loose

easy to wind out the fitting and then install the bolts to get you home
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:14 AM   #15845
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:23 AM   #15846
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Odd post but hear me out - and YES, this most certainly is Pig-related.

Anyone knows of one or some of these, an oldish travel mug?



Similar things, pref plastic wanted, and if at all possible with a Green Bay Packers logo.
If you know one or some then contact Focker, administrator/site-owner of http://www.xr650rforum.com
Check his post: http://www.xr650rforum.com/t1672-nee...of-these#10055

I've never seen these things but he's a good dude, so go help him if you can?
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:44 AM   #15847
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Odd post but hear me out - and YES, this most certainly is Pig-related.

Anyone knows of one or some of these, an oldish travel mug?



Similar things, pref plastic wanted, and if at all possible with a Green Bay Packers logo.
If you know one or some then contact Focker, administrator/site-owner of http://www.xr650rforum.com
Check his post: http://www.xr650rforum.com/t1672-nee...of-these#10055

I've never seen these things but he's a good dude, so go help him if you can?
EBay has a few if you search"post toasties mug" on Ebay.com. I'm not a member of that forum so can't access his post.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:57 AM   #15848
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Here is a pic for you. Hi and low marks are black ink marked on the steel oil return tube next to the clear sight tube.These correspond to the marks on the dipstick.
Appreciate the pic, thanks!

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Very nice clean xrr you have there
Bought it last summer from an inmate in Memphis, he had it set up for dual sporting and I'm using it more for road, and with the 19 front I plan to use it for a few track days.

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Uhh, sorry, yay & nay Hontri.
When I saw that pic my first thought was "No way!!", and went checking - erm, correct, 'scuse me Squire
Your markers however correspond to the "correct" level and the "end-of-dipstick" level - and calling the latter the 'low' mark is somewhat misleading I think.
I'd regard "low" about where the cabletie is in your pic, and when mine is there it most certainly will get a slosh of oil added - this is (very roughly) halfway the height of the steering stem, in fact I would say this is a "too low" mark already.
But PineyMR, a sight tube makes life a damn site simpler - add oil if it's not at the 'normal' mark rather than waiting until you can't see it anymore during riding. The correct qty of oil also keeps the oil hence engine cooler, pls keep in mind that the ali frame acts as a (very good) oil-cooler.
Yeah, without seeing an actual XRR dip stick, I thought the bottom mark was a little low ( compared to my DRZ and other dirt bikes). I can see the oil level while I'm going down the road, but I'm getting ready for another oil change, so I'll be sure and mark the full level right away, and keep it there as much as possible.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:59 AM   #15849
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plus 1 ...what BuRPsa said

remembering oil level will drop when on the fly so i have a mark for on the fly full ....a mark for needs oil when stopped and a mark for full

best thing to add to any xrr ...i also carry 2 bolts as backup of god forbid the line splits or a fitting works loose

easy to wind out the fitting and then install the bolts to get you home
Good idea, I can see the oil level when I'm running but haven't paid attention to exactly where it is
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:01 PM   #15850
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Hello everyone , Can someone point me towards the right flasher unit so i can run led blinkers on my pig, Doing a project XR650R will post pics when i work out how to do that
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:58 PM   #15851
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Hello everyone , Can someone point me towards the right flasher unit so i can run led blinkers on my pig, Doing a project XR650R will post pics when i work out how to do that
Are you converting it to dc power or running ac only still? Led flasher units won't work on ac power. I got a resistor from autozone and wired it in along with my leds. Running a flasher from a Chevy truck, I think they all are the same Works fine. If you have dc power the flashers can be found cheap at places like autozone or advanced auto, around $10 or $15.

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Old 01-27-2013, 06:12 PM   #15852
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Hello everyone , Can someone point me towards the right flasher unit so i can run led blinkers on my pig, Doing a project XR650R will post pics when i work out how to do that
some reading material for you before you get started.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:40 PM   #15853
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:48 PM   #15854
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:52 PM   #15855
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Thanks Kiko- The footpeg has already been done and I'm hoping to be able to afford an 8" light before June.

Achile- I'm hoping to have the time for a complete disassembly. What am I looking for with the cam chain? Is it stretch? How do you tell?

Thanks,

Adam

My worn cam chain was very obvious. It had quite a bit of side to side play, had eaten the sides of the plastic sliders and the tensioner was maxed out on travel. I had something around 20-30k miles on mine. I believe there is a spec in the manual but I would say that it should be easy to tell if it is bad or good.

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Yip, spark every revolution - anyone with a Trailtech computer should know this.

I also was thinking about 'off timing', although a bit unlikely I think. The XRR fires (on kicking) at precisely TDC, the CDI starts to advance at crank speeds higher than by kicking it round.
"Too early" (before TDC) would cause kickbacks causing the decomp to act. Snorting into the exhaust, plus maybe coughing back into the airbox. If no decomp-system present (non-std cam but for the genuine HRC) then it might break a leg/foot, but notice you fooken will!
"Too late" would cause normal starting & running but just a bit lousy, unless of course when it is heaps off the mark.

Off-timing could be caused either by a worn/damaged key-match, or the trailing edge of the welded-on plate (rectangular protrusion) on the rotor/flywheel is damaged. Both not common problems - but maybe worth checking if Ist got it off anyway?
I'm with you. I think all the things I have checked point to ignition timing being off. I'll have to check the pickup and the woodruff. If that doesn't do it, I may pull the cam and take a closer look at the auto decomp again.

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Just a hunch Allan, 'false air' - go check the head2manifold & manifold2carb connections, plus that one screw/bolt on top of the head? If it leaks air somewhere here then you know it'll be a bastid to start, and won't like to idle then too. I'd check this before you dig in deep again, causes often are simple things.
Goodluck!
I hadn't thought of that. I'll have to check.

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Its possible to shear the woodruff key and throw the timing way off. Bought a bike with this problem.

For some reason to me it sounds like the ignition timing is off since it is back firing. I'm not sure but I think the piggy is a lost spark system ( fires every revolution) so i don't think it is possible to time the engine 360degrees off.

Have you pulled the stator cover off? To check the stator, I would check for continuity between the stator windings, disconnect all the wires. Green and White/yellow stripe, then check the same wires to a frame ground. These are your power leads for headlight tail light. Next do the same thing with the Brown and Black/red stripe. These are your power for the CDI and coil. There should be continuity between the wires but not to ground. Do the same with Blue/ yellow strip and the Green/ white stripe. These are your pickup, once again you should have continuity between the wires but not to ground.

I think form the sounds of it the stator is good though. I would definately look more into ignition timing issues.
Stator cover has been off quite a few times. One thing I haven't check at all is the flywheel woodruff key. I hadn't even thought of it even though i had a car do that once. Good idea! I'll check the stator wires closer and the key and get back to you all.

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Quick to check though, and worthwile if you got the bike from somebody that is not an experianced mech
I've set the cam timing three or four times now and I've owned this bike for a while so the only person I have to blame is me. I doubt it is 360 out but that was one of the things I checked closely when I had the head off last week.


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