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Old 02-05-2013, 12:00 AM   #15931
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3.2 kgs v 1.1 kgs .. but the 1.1 was just the ally sub no chainroller and bracket

so 2 kilo's more there abouts .. marginal to say the least ..if your loading up a bike ....i would rather have a heavy sub and make the trip or 2kgs less and maybe not make it home

there's aprox 40 hrs in making the first frame .. lets hope the hard work has been done .. test fit it tomorrow then off to the pwdr coaters ...then the real world testing starts
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:13 AM   #15932
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so 2 kilo's more there abouts .. marginal to say the least ..
Saved more than that by getting rid of the OEM and fitting an Acro.

One think to consider, should your luggage be heavy, and cause failure, what will the point of failure be?

With the ally subframe, it is the subframe... Shearing the mounting points on the mainframe will be a huge issue (or not?)
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:34 AM   #15933
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Yes that has been discussed .....indeed we thought .. but i would be inclined to think the bolt would shear b4 the mainframe ..by adding the plate it will take most of the sideways flex out we hope and thus a more ridged fixing

it will make it alot user friendly when adding panniers or a rear rack os\f some sort ..trail side repairs possible if they do fail

i think to bust the backbone of the frame out it would be an almighty crash and tail slap ..of wich the ally frame would also be in the poo but if you bust the bolt out of the backbone . wouldnt be riding home anyways .. think me be in a chopper or ambo
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:48 AM   #15934
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.....indeed we thought ..
And....what was the experiance like

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..but i would be inclined to think the bolt would shear b4 the mainframe ..
Got a point, maybe not make the bolt to too high a grade.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:03 AM   #15935
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and....what was the experiance like
it hurt



got a point, maybe not make the bolt to too high a grade.

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Old 02-05-2013, 05:03 AM   #15936
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Just picked this Bad girl up. . . Needed alittle TLC but she cleaned up well. . Now just to order new springs. Im way to heavy for the stock suspension. Need like a 11.5 or 12 for the rear and the heavest I can find in the front is .49









anybody have suggestion on where to order springs? Racetech?
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:30 AM   #15937
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:48 AM   #15938
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Yea, but you're making the Yammer and the Suzy? look bad!

Nice work.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #15939
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Spring Rates...lol

I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

Any help appreciated!
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:04 PM   #15940
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I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

Any help appreciated!

Now... it's been awhile, but I THINK i have a 10.5 in my rear and I used to weigh as much as you... No idea where I got the extra 15lbs recently...

Either way, I think the rear is a bit low. I'd probably go 11 or 11.5 now with the matching front springs. I have a Acerbis 6.3, Race light, and carry 40-70lbs of luggage semi regularily. I weight 200, 6'4" + gear

For the front, you can play around with with a spacer / cut spring till you know. Once again, my suspension never or rarely bottoms, but it's a bit too soft for my liking and when I load her up with fuel and lugage it's sagging more then I want. It still rides quite well though. I need to play around with it more but i"m looking for a big boy rear spring and forks springs though.

With that said, size your weight, your gear, half to 3/4 of your fuel, and consider luggage weight. Then base your decision on this.

If you want a 10.5 I think I have an extra one in my garage.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:51 PM   #15941
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Now... it's been awhile, but I THINK i have a 10.5 in my rear and I used to weigh as much as you... No idea where I got the extra 15lbs recently...

Either way, I think the rear is a bit low. I'd probably go 11 or 11.5 now with the matching front springs. I have a Acerbis 6.3, Race light, and carry 40-70lbs of luggage semi regularily. I weight 200, 6'4" + gear

For the front, you can play around with with a spacer / cut spring till you know. Once again, my suspension never or rarely bottoms, but it's a bit too soft for my liking and when I load her up with fuel and lugage it's sagging more then I want. It still rides quite well though. I need to play around with it more but i"m looking for a big boy rear spring and forks springs though.

With that said, size your weight, your gear, half to 3/4 of your fuel, and consider luggage weight. Then base your decision on this.

If you want a 10.5 I think I have an extra one in my garage.
Thank you this is just the response I needed. Maybe I will go with stiffer springs to include the luggage weight and fuel. Probably .47// 11. I'm just wondering if it will be too stiff if I take the luggage off and wanna go rally her.

How much you want for that 10.5?
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:52 PM   #15942
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I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

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Go to: racetech.com

They have an application that gives you an idea of what spring rates you need.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #15943
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Go to: racetech.com

They have an application that gives you an idea of what spring rates you need.
Borynack states that those spring rates are based on a computer program that calculates the rates for use on a MX track. AKA stiffer than needed for normal riding. Maybe that's what i need though?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #15944
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:47 PM   #15945
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I replaced my counter sprocket with a 15T tonite. I didn't notice if the stock one had any slop in it, but the new one does. Not "in and out" but a tiny bit of "side to side" slop. I can always put the original one back on and check, but I know plenty of you all's have done it already. Normal, right?
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