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Old 02-05-2013, 10:48 AM   #15946
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Yea, but you're making the Yammer and the Suzy? look bad!

Nice work.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #15947
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Spring Rates...lol

I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:04 PM   #15948
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I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

Any help appreciated!

Now... it's been awhile, but I THINK i have a 10.5 in my rear and I used to weigh as much as you... No idea where I got the extra 15lbs recently...

Either way, I think the rear is a bit low. I'd probably go 11 or 11.5 now with the matching front springs. I have a Acerbis 6.3, Race light, and carry 40-70lbs of luggage semi regularily. I weight 200, 6'4" + gear

For the front, you can play around with with a spacer / cut spring till you know. Once again, my suspension never or rarely bottoms, but it's a bit too soft for my liking and when I load her up with fuel and lugage it's sagging more then I want. It still rides quite well though. I need to play around with it more but i"m looking for a big boy rear spring and forks springs though.

With that said, size your weight, your gear, half to 3/4 of your fuel, and consider luggage weight. Then base your decision on this.

If you want a 10.5 I think I have an extra one in my garage.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:51 PM   #15949
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Now... it's been awhile, but I THINK i have a 10.5 in my rear and I used to weigh as much as you... No idea where I got the extra 15lbs recently...

Either way, I think the rear is a bit low. I'd probably go 11 or 11.5 now with the matching front springs. I have a Acerbis 6.3, Race light, and carry 40-70lbs of luggage semi regularily. I weight 200, 6'4" + gear

For the front, you can play around with with a spacer / cut spring till you know. Once again, my suspension never or rarely bottoms, but it's a bit too soft for my liking and when I load her up with fuel and lugage it's sagging more then I want. It still rides quite well though. I need to play around with it more but i"m looking for a big boy rear spring and forks springs though.

With that said, size your weight, your gear, half to 3/4 of your fuel, and consider luggage weight. Then base your decision on this.

If you want a 10.5 I think I have an extra one in my garage.
Thank you this is just the response I needed. Maybe I will go with stiffer springs to include the luggage weight and fuel. Probably .47// 11. I'm just wondering if it will be too stiff if I take the luggage off and wanna go rally her.

How much you want for that 10.5?
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:52 PM   #15950
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I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

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Go to: racetech.com

They have an application that gives you an idea of what spring rates you need.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #15951
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Go to: racetech.com

They have an application that gives you an idea of what spring rates you need.
Borynack states that those spring rates are based on a computer program that calculates the rates for use on a MX track. AKA stiffer than needed for normal riding. Maybe that's what i need though?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #15952
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I am sorry. I do not know where to place. Russian song about MX.

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Old 02-06-2013, 04:47 PM   #15953
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I replaced my counter sprocket with a 15T tonite. I didn't notice if the stock one had any slop in it, but the new one does. Not "in and out" but a tiny bit of "side to side" slop. I can always put the original one back on and check, but I know plenty of you all's have done it already. Normal, right?
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:00 PM   #15954
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It can, and does cause wear on the shaft.

I'd look for a tighter one. Saying this from experience and seeing signs of some slight wearing on mine.

(I'm assuming you mean wiggle on the shaft. As in the splines aren't perfectly matching)
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:07 PM   #15955
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It can, and does cause wear on the shaft.

I'd look for a tighter one. Saying this from experience and seeing signs of some slight wearing on mine.

(I'm assuming you mean wiggle on the shaft. As in the splines aren't perfectly matching)
Exactly, wiggle is the word I was looking for. it's a new Moose steel unit. The splines on the shaft are not worn, I'll pop it back off tomorrow and compare to the original one.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:18 PM   #15956
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I know this is beating a dead horse,but I need some opinions on what spring rates to use. I weigh 185 i'm 6'5" and I plan on packing some lightweight things in my coyote saddle bags... I have stock springs in there, and I want to do all the Borynack fork mods, with the shim stacks etc. I'm just torn on what spring rates to use. Should I spring it for the added weight of my gear(40-60lbs?) and oversized tank(4.3)? I was thinking of going with .45 in the front and 10.5 or 10.2 in the back?

Any help appreciated!
Hey buddy! I would highly suggest sending your forks and shock to precision concepts. They did a full rebuild on mine for about $550 and feels awesome. I ended up with .47 in the front and 11kg in the rear with custom valving at both ends. I'm 190 lbs and with the 6.3 and a full coyote on the TAT, it performed flawlessly. Really soaked up the bumps. It also works great when I'm unloaded and running the smaller tank. I explained to Diane the various uses for my bike and that I wanted something that would work under various conditions.

Give Diane a call. She's real knowledgeable and can answer any questions you may have. PC definitely knows XR's.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:22 PM   #15957
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Here's my setup sheet.



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Old 02-06-2013, 09:06 PM   #15958
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Hey buddy! I would highly suggest sending your forks and shock to precision concepts. They did a full rebuild on mine for about $550 and feels awesome. I ended up with .47 in the front and 11kg in the rear with custom valving at both ends. I'm 190 lbs and with the 6.3 and a full coyote on the TAT, it performed flawlessly. Really soaked up the bumps. It also works great when I'm unloaded and running the smaller tank. I explained to Diane the various uses for my bike and that I wanted something that would work under various conditions.

Give Diane a call. She's real knowledgeable and can answer any questions you may have. PC definitely knows XR's.
Hey! Thanks for the detailed reply. This is just what I want: something that will work when I'm loaded down, and not.

It really helps to get a look at the receipt, I was gonna do the shim stacks/ drill out the compression valve myself,but sending it out could be an option
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:23 PM   #15959
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Here's my setup sheet.



Invoice:

A similar overhaul here in Australia is more like $1200+ and that ain't by someone as well known as PC. You guys get some good prices on bikes and services in the US!
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:29 PM   #15960
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A similar overhaul here in Australia is more like $1200+ and that ain't by someone as well known as PC. You guys get some good prices on bikes and services in the US!
Lol I thought $500 was bad
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