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Old 02-18-2013, 10:25 AM   #16096
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I kind of hand torque guy too, but what about your triples? I use a torque wrench on my triples and rear axle, as well as the obvious engine stuff. I worry about over torqueing the lower clamps on the forks because of the chance of deforming the tubes, which I worry I might have done the other day when I had the wrench set at 27lbs instead of 24.

Then of course once I realized this I compressed the forks and can feel a tight spot about a third of the way in the stroke. I hoping its just an oil level problem, but I am going to pull them tonight to figure it out.
Nope, not there ether. I've never seen a deformed fork tube from the triple clamps. It's my understanding that the torque on the triples is to keep from snapping off the alum ears which I've seen before. It was caused by over torquing the bolts and the tube was fine.

Those tubes are very stout and are pretty hard to deform, look at a MC that's hit the back of a car, yeah there going to bend but they don't usally fold under. I'd be surprised if the torque was your problem, even if it's was deformed which I doubt, there's nothing internal that runs up the inside of the tubes that's even close to touching the inner wall of the leg in that area. It's the spring that sits in that area and that has plenty of clearance.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:28 AM   #16097
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Google ways to remove the screw and out of the many links a few will be good. They will all require time and patience… blah, blah…

But say the worst happened and the screw snaps.
Grind it flush with a Dremel ®.
Drill and tap the SQUARE end of the axle with an M6… taking the care to drill square to the flats and at 90deg from the axle. Tap through from one side only. Get a long screw, or a treaded rod, screw on axle and use the jam-nut.
Use the square and of the axle on the “bad side”, and the nut on the good side.
Nah, I just jammed a smashed up beer can in it and called it good.

Kidding, it doesn't cause me any issues so maybe when I retire I will fix it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:36 AM   #16098
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Nope, not there ether. I've never seen a deformed fork tube from the triple clamps. It's my understanding that the torque on the triples is to keep from snapping off the alum ears which I've seen before. It was caused by over torquing the bolts and the tube was fine.

Those tubes are very stout and are pretty hard to deform, look at a MC that's hit the back of a car, yeah there going to bend but they don't usally fold under. I'd be surprised if the torque was your problem.

Thats good to know, I was worried. However, I did hit a car at about 40mph on this same bike years ago. Xrr 1, saturn sedan 0, the bike won; totally ripped apart the front of the car and my bike could have been ridden away with a little bar starigtening. I rebuilt the forks since then and the tubes were all straight.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #16099
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Ooh you clever Dick you......... you're right!!!!!
And on this, just a few torque settings are to be applied, like head, swinger, and... umm, well, can't think of any, the rest I do all by hand - and I bet a lot of guys do this, those who work regularly on bikes or engines.
I'm the same for most, but I have met my fair share of heavy-handed techs in the Air Force as an engineer to know some people just don't have a feel for or concept of torque vs size of head etc.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:33 PM   #16100
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that feeling? that feeling is dumbass.

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which I worry I might have done the other day when I had the wrench set at 27lbs instead of 24.

Then of course once I realized this I compressed the forks and can feel a tight spot about a third of the way in the stroke. I hoping its just an oil level problem, but I am going to pull them tonight to figure it out.
Yeh, god damn ocd is kicking in. I checked out my forks. Loosened every fork alignment related bolt, and stroked the forks for a few minutes trying to figure out what that tight spot is I am feeling and hoping it goes away.

It did go away, right about the time I realized the tight spot I was feeling was the rear shock topping out.

Yes, I am a class 5 wizard.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:35 PM   #16101
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Most people just don't admit that stuff.... =)
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:12 AM   #16102
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Yah, full marks for Crypto for that, but he didn't tell you that he lovingly refers to his pig as "KLR"....

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #16103
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Most people just don't admit that stuff.... =)
If my stupidity can help just one person, its proabably a waste of time.

I was on my way to a MRAN race as a spectator Saturday Morning, and I went down pretty hard in a rut and 20 degree F weather. I jacked up my shoulder and got kind of shockey and about passed out from the pain, but was able to limp home with a crooked front end and a broken foot peg.

Instead of going to the ER, I decided to just take care of my bike's medical problems. I think I was still a little dazed out to think clearly.

After I heard that 5 riders had to be flown off the race, I didn't feel too bad. Injuries are most common at the start of the season for all riders.

BTW Burpsa, are still hanging on to that toe nail? I will gladely trade you a screwed up shoulder for a pedicure problem.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:21 PM   #16104
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On all four of my bikes I use a torque wrench for everything. In/lbs for smaller fasteners, and ft/lbs for larger.

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Old 02-20-2013, 04:12 AM   #16105
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BTW Burpsa, are still hanging on to that toe nail? I will gladely trade you a screwed up shoulder for a pedicure problem.
Nah, keep it, I already screw up often enough. The nail will grow out, hope that shoulder does same but maybe (read: for sure!) better to visit someone which a) has some fancy xray equipment, and b) has studied human bodies for 6 years. We guys tend to think that seeking some medical help is "Aww, not needed" but often regret it later. And yeah, guilty as charged of course, why be different
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:24 AM   #16106
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Whats the Stock size Handlebars on XR650R

7/8 or 1 1/8


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Old 02-20-2013, 08:00 AM   #16107
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Whats the Stock size Handlebars on XR650R

7/8 or 1 1/8


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7/8, like most (all?) steel bars.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:34 AM   #16108
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Considering selling my Multistrada for an XR650R or L...leaning heavily toward the R.

One question: how bearable are 200-300 mile rides on the R?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:42 AM   #16109
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Considering selling my Multistrada for an XR650R or L...leaning heavily toward the R.

One question: how bearable are 200-300 mile rides on the R?
Keep in mind both those bikes you'll want to do a certain amount of work.

The XRR is in need of the following:

1) Big tank
2) Lighting system
3) Seat
4) Suspension revalve and re-spring.

You woulnd't be giving it half a chance without those modifications. The XRL comes with a softer seat, softer suspension (still could benefit from work), lighting system, and I think a bigger tank, but you'll still want to upgrade that too.

For longer rides a windscreen is priceless.

With mine I've done 2.5 weeks riding every day for 371KM/day (231miles) mostly all offroad. This was the CDT with an offshoot to Moab to ride White Rim Trail and back over Imogene and Engineer Pass. I could continue that pretty much forever but I'm pretty stubborn. I'd gladly give up comfort for ride fun and the ability to access locations those other bikes simply couldn't go. As well, to me offroad riding is easier then on-road. Moving around, standing, stopping to take pictures, etc is much easier then droning down the highway (which I've done as well!).

What you're going from and considering going to is a rolling couch to a full on 2x4. Dirt bikes aren't made for hours on the highway, but you can with little money make them bearable. The XRR is a dirt bike. Not a dual sport unless you make it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:03 AM   #16110
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I'd gladly give up comfort for ride fun and the ability to access locations those other bikes simply couldn't go. As well, to me offroad riding is easier then on-road. Moving around, standing, stopping to take pictures, etc is much easier then droning down the highway (which I've done as well!).
+1

300mi off road is pretty easy on the XR with a decent seat, can't say the same thing for pavement riding. It will do it but you'll be wishing you had your Multistrada back about 75 miles into the ride
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