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Old 02-20-2013, 04:12 AM   #16111
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BTW Burpsa, are still hanging on to that toe nail? I will gladely trade you a screwed up shoulder for a pedicure problem.
Nah, keep it, I already screw up often enough. The nail will grow out, hope that shoulder does same but maybe (read: for sure!) better to visit someone which a) has some fancy xray equipment, and b) has studied human bodies for 6 years. We guys tend to think that seeking some medical help is "Aww, not needed" but often regret it later. And yeah, guilty as charged of course, why be different
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:24 AM   #16112
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Whats the Stock size Handlebars on XR650R

7/8 or 1 1/8


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Old 02-20-2013, 08:00 AM   #16113
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Whats the Stock size Handlebars on XR650R

7/8 or 1 1/8


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7/8, like most (all?) steel bars.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:34 AM   #16114
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Considering selling my Multistrada for an XR650R or L...leaning heavily toward the R.

One question: how bearable are 200-300 mile rides on the R?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:42 AM   #16115
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Considering selling my Multistrada for an XR650R or L...leaning heavily toward the R.

One question: how bearable are 200-300 mile rides on the R?
Keep in mind both those bikes you'll want to do a certain amount of work.

The XRR is in need of the following:

1) Big tank
2) Lighting system
3) Seat
4) Suspension revalve and re-spring.

You woulnd't be giving it half a chance without those modifications. The XRL comes with a softer seat, softer suspension (still could benefit from work), lighting system, and I think a bigger tank, but you'll still want to upgrade that too.

For longer rides a windscreen is priceless.

With mine I've done 2.5 weeks riding every day for 371KM/day (231miles) mostly all offroad. This was the CDT with an offshoot to Moab to ride White Rim Trail and back over Imogene and Engineer Pass. I could continue that pretty much forever but I'm pretty stubborn. I'd gladly give up comfort for ride fun and the ability to access locations those other bikes simply couldn't go. As well, to me offroad riding is easier then on-road. Moving around, standing, stopping to take pictures, etc is much easier then droning down the highway (which I've done as well!).

What you're going from and considering going to is a rolling couch to a full on 2x4. Dirt bikes aren't made for hours on the highway, but you can with little money make them bearable. The XRR is a dirt bike. Not a dual sport unless you make it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:03 AM   #16116
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I'd gladly give up comfort for ride fun and the ability to access locations those other bikes simply couldn't go. As well, to me offroad riding is easier then on-road. Moving around, standing, stopping to take pictures, etc is much easier then droning down the highway (which I've done as well!).
+1

300mi off road is pretty easy on the XR with a decent seat, can't say the same thing for pavement riding. It will do it but you'll be wishing you had your Multistrada back about 75 miles into the ride
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:24 AM   #16117
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and this is why I kept the SV1000 and bought a XRR I found that the SV was not good off road and the XRR wasn't the best tourer. I kept trying to find one bike to fit both worlds and that was just not happening. Although the KLR gave it the best chance. That is just my opinion. XRR is a great ride though, LOTS of Fun. I enjoy both types of riding to much to have one or the other.

The BMW Sertao is a nice bike as well.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:07 AM   #16118
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The BMW Sertao is a nice bike as well.
Do those things still weigh like 450lbs?

I know the old F used to weigh a ton, and the X-challenge was still heavy, which is what I think the Sertao is now.

Problem being, yes you get FI and great mileage, however read the X-challenge thread and you realize complications come from the complexity of those bikes. Batteries were an issue, sensors causing the bike to run poorly, fuel pumps causing it to not run at all.


Cue the Honda XR700R, light 300 lb thumper with 65ish HP, great torque, wide gear 6 speed, kick start and still carbed! I'd take a v-twin too if weight can be kept below 350lbs. 55-60 MPG and I'm happy.

Keep all the fancy plastic to a minimum and work on good suspension, power delivery, gear ratios. Be the first with LED headlights and decent electrical system but remember if price was going to explode with this, skip it all and just make it a dirt bike.

Sounds so simple doesn't it? Why hasn't the japanese squashed the Europeans on this?

DR750Z??
XR750L??
KL800RR?

Or maybe some smaller versions that are durable?

Give us something!

I refuse to ride a $12,500 pumkin that still needs 3000-4000 to make it useable. $16,000 bike is rediculous. I know you Americans get a much better deal, but up here that thing is retardedly priced.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #16119
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Keep in mind both those bikes you'll want to do a certain amount of work.

The XRR is in need of the following:

1) Big tank
2) Lighting system
3) Seat
4) Suspension revalve and re-spring.

You woulnd't be giving it half a chance without those modifications. The XRL comes with a softer seat, softer suspension (still could benefit from work), lighting system, and I think a bigger tank, but you'll still want to upgrade that too.

For longer rides a windscreen is priceless.

With mine I've done 2.5 weeks riding every day for 371KM/day (231miles) mostly all offroad. This was the CDT with an offshoot to Moab to ride White Rim Trail and back over Imogene and Engineer Pass. I could continue that pretty much forever but I'm pretty stubborn. I'd gladly give up comfort for ride fun and the ability to access locations those other bikes simply couldn't go. As well, to me offroad riding is easier then on-road. Moving around, standing, stopping to take pictures, etc is much easier then droning down the highway (which I've done as well!).

What you're going from and considering going to is a rolling couch to a full on 2x4. Dirt bikes aren't made for hours on the highway, but you can with little money make them bearable. The XRR is a dirt bike. Not a dual sport unless you make it.
Sorry, should've clarified...I'm talking road rides. I've owned an R before, and had it set up for day/night enduro, but I never rode it on the highway for any length of time. It was my favorite bike I've ever owned, and I live in Chicago now, so it would be a sick commuter, but I would just need to use it to ride home to MI a couple times a summer. I might tard it, but how bad is the seat and how bad are fuel changes with a OS tank?
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:05 PM   #16120
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Sorry, should've clarified...I'm talking road rides. I've owned an R before, and had it set up for day/night enduro, but I never rode it on the highway for any length of time. It was my favorite bike I've ever owned, and I live in Chicago now, so it would be a sick commuter, but I would just need to use it to ride home to MI a couple times a summer. I might tard it, but how bad is the seat and how bad are fuel changes with a OS tank?
You're probably looking at the wrong bike.

A) factory tank range is not good.
B) The seat isn't comfortable
C) Maintenance intervals are short for most people's recommended changes, adjustments.
D) It needs full electronics and pass street legal requirements of your state
E) Kick only.

It's do-able, but in no way comparible to your current bike.

Plus there is no ignition lock, or steering lock. Anybody can kick and go.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:16 PM   #16121
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:02 PM   #16122
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Cue the Honda XR700R, light 300 lb thumper with 65ish HP, great torque, wide gear 6 speed, kick start and still carbed! I'd take a v-twin too if weight can be kept below 350lbs. 55-60 MPG and I'm happy.
I like your thinking, Shibby, but I would take EFI if it only added a few lbs.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:35 PM   #16123
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Anybody can kick and go.
not quite that simple.
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BuRPsa, you were right the face of the engine cover it was warped. I pulled it off and got it milled. It was def off by a few thousandths and was warped into a bowl shape.

Met an awesome guy that sold his machine shop, but still stuck around to do side projects. He milled it for me. A bit expensive at 40 bucks, but I need to get the piggy back on the road.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:40 PM   #16125
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BuRPsa, you were right the face of the engine cover it was warped. I pulled it off and got it milled. It was def off by a few thousandths and was warped into a bowl shape.

Met an awesome guy that sold his machine shop, but still stuck around to do side projects. He milled it for me. A bit expensive at 40 bucks, but I need to get the piggy back on the road.
Good to hear! Wonder why it warped? Those things are like 9 ft-lbs. I also torque them in rotations or criss cross pattern.

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not quite that simple.
Oh common, these things kick over in thongs... (I've done it lots... I've also ripped a sandel...)
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