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Old 02-21-2013, 08:07 AM   #16126
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Nah, keep it, I already screw up often enough. The nail will grow out, hope that shoulder does same but maybe (read: for sure!) better to visit someone which a) has some fancy xray equipment, and b) has studied human bodies for 6 years. We guys tend to think that seeking some medical help is "Aww, not needed" but often regret it later. And yeah, guilty as charged of course, why be different

MRI shows a torn rotator cuff, if surgery is needed I will be unable to ride for 4-5 months.
Figures, I just bought the wife a bike and was teaching her to ride.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:32 AM   #16127
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Well, didn't really expect that but was the only possibility left. If it's fixed now good on you
I will button it up tonight and will go on a test ride this weekend.

Pretty much the machine shop guy was like "YUP this thing really was warped."

I am glad I just took it to a machine shop in the end.

Shibby!, I have no idea how it got warped. My only thought could be heat related (really hot and then exposed to water?) or just a bum cover from the factory. The history of the bike is a mystery since I bought it used. It didnt leak at all until I took the cover off for the first time.

I have kicked over the xr650r in sandals too.

I cant wait to ride it on the street!

The old timer at the machine shop had a cali plated 2 stroke dirt bike. I was jealous.
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Old 02-21-2013, 03:12 PM   #16128
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Hey guys today i was out riding some canyons and i noticed oil had started to leak out of the air filter cover , I know its a common issue when people over fill the oil . So im hoping it was just the breather tube puking out excess oil. I'm going to change my oil and be very careful to not go over 1.7qts, this is the correct way of going about things when this happens right ? So basically its really no big deal? Please excuse my apparent retardation I'm just worried because if it was the crankcase breather hose getting rid of the excess why does my oil show very low in the sight tube even after heating it up , shouldnt it have just gone back to the 1.7qts ? I should mention that the countershaft seal does not seem to be leaking but i will be replacing it anyways

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:01 PM   #16129
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Why replace your counter shaft seal if nothing is wrong with it?


Have you confirmed it's not filter oil? Sometimes if you use a lot it can drip a bit.

If it's a lot of oil, then it could have been overfilled but shouldn't have been going past your full mark. Might also be bad rings pressurizing your crank and blowing it out.

A few variables to consider. Pictures would help.

Try topping your oil up again and see if it does it twice. As you mentioned, make sure you measure the oil level properly.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:28 PM   #16130
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I changed the oil and everything seems to be fine i guess im just being a hypochondriac

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #16131
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Your Multi compared to XRR

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Considering selling my Multistrada for an XR650R or L...leaning heavily toward the R.

One question: how bearable are 200-300 mile rides on the R?
Good question, and I guess its relative. Coming off a Multistrada, an XRR is going to vibrate more, have virtually no wind protection, and not have the same stability at 85 plus MPH. I think for 200-300 miles you can do quite well, with breaks every 100 miles or so. But, the lack of wind protection, wind noise and some vibes will wear on you more. I find a sweet spot at 65-70 MPH on pavement, with stock gearing.

Plus one to what folks said about big tank, after market tank, and suspension work. I am just fine with a Baja Designs light kit so far.

If you want more smoothness, less maintenance, e-start, ability to run e-vest, and carrying capacity, go for an L.

If you want rip-your-arms out tourque, plush eat-it-up suspension, and the Baja history go for the R. In my book the R is just tons of fun and has a unique history that the L lacks.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:47 PM   #16132
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I will button it up tonight and will go on a test ride this weekend.

Pretty much the machine shop guy was like "YUP this thing really was warped."

I am glad I just took it to a machine shop in the end.

Shibby!, I have no idea how it got warped. My only thought could be heat related (really hot and then exposed to water?) or just a bum cover from the factory. The history of the bike is a mystery since I bought it used. It didnt leak at all until I took the cover off for the first time.

I have kicked over the xr650r in sandals too.

I cant wait to ride it on the street!

The old timer at the machine shop had a cali plated 2 stroke dirt bike. I was jealous.
Doh' I spoke too soon.

After putting it back together its really, really hard to kick over. Like stand on the kick starter with the decomp in and it wont move hard. (yes it's in neutral)

I thought maybe too much was milled from the crank case cover and now the oil filter cover and oil pump were rubbing. I loosened the bolts and it become 10x easier to kick. Possible clearance issue now with the oil pump and cover? Air bubbles making the pump harder to operate?

Gave up for the night, lol.

EDIT: Does the oil pump need priming? Saw nothing in the FSM suggesting it.

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Old 02-21-2013, 09:19 PM   #16133
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Doh' I spoke too soon.

After putting it back together its really, really hard to kick over. Like stand on the kick starter with the decomp in and it wont move hard. (yes it's in neutral)

I thought maybe too much was milled from the crank case cover and now the oil filter cover and oil pump were rubbing. I loosened the bolts and it become 10x easier to kick. Possible clearance issue now with the oil pump and cover? Air bubbles making the pump harder to operate?

Gave up for the night, lol.

EDIT: Does the oil pump need priming? Saw nothing in the FSM suggesting it.

DON"T run it!

Sounds like your oil pump is rubbing on your cover. I bet there are marks if you take it off. You can maybe mill this down, but at this point you might want to find a used one, or buy a new cover. I know it sucks, but consider the option.

Pump does not have to be primed but many on here (including myself) hold the decomp in and kick it a good 10-15 times after changing the oil to hopefully pump the oil into the lines. Another topic under discussion is kicking while drained to remove oil form the lines (put bolt back in or it will spray out). About 200 mls comes out after doing this. I do it and button it up and do priming kicks. You can feel slightly more resistance after a few kicks. I think it helps anyways.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:26 PM   #16134
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DON"T run it!

Sounds like your oil pump is rubbing on your cover. I bet there are marks if you take it off. You can maybe mill this down, but at this point you might want to find a used one, or buy a new cover. I know it sucks, but consider the option.

Pump does not have to be primed but many on here (including myself) hold the decomp in and kick it a good 10-15 times after changing the oil to hopefully pump the oil into the lines. Another topic under discussion is kicking while drained to remove oil form the lines (put bolt back in or it will spray out). About 200 mls comes out after doing this. I do it and button it up and do priming kicks. You can feel slightly more resistance after a few kicks. I think it helps anyways.
Yup there is marks on the new oil filter cover I put on. Maybe I should sand down the old one until there is enough clearance? Debating just buying an entire new crankcase cover at this point. I don't want something to go wrong with the oil pump and lose the motor in the process. Ha!

Anybody got a right crank case cover off a spare engine they wanna sell? HAHAHA.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:50 PM   #16135
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Yup there is marks on the new oil filter cover I put on. Maybe I should sand down the old one until there is enough clearance? Debating just buying an entire new crankcase cover at this point. I don't want something to go wrong with the oil pump and lose the motor in the process. Ha!

Anybody got a right crank case cover off a spare engine they wanna sell? HAHAHA.
Oil pump clearance it a very exact tolerance and directly relates to the motors oil pressure. I'd get a cover off eBay or new, don't risk the motor.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:10 AM   #16136
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Oil pump clearance it a very exact tolerance and directly relates to the motors oil pressure. I'd get a cover off eBay or new, don't risk the motor.

Medisyn,

My fault, I forgot to tell you this. The skimming is only possible when it's less than the axial play of the pump-rotors in the housing, and I skipped telling you how to measure this. It appears that the pump-parts are lodged-in solid now, so please don't start it.
You must buy another/new cover, I'd not skim the pump's parts.
Sorry for my incomplete advice!
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:57 AM   #16137
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Medisyn,

My fault, I forgot to tell you this. The skimming is only possible when it's less than the axial play of the pump-rotors in the housing, and I skipped telling you how to measure this. It appears that the pump-parts are lodged-in solid now, so please don't start it.
You must buy another/new cover, I'd not skim the pump's parts.
Sorry for my incomplete advice!
No worries, I should have not been cheap and just ordered a new cover in the first place. Don't worry about me starting it, its likely impossible haha.

I have been ordering my parts on partzilla. Where does everybody go online to get theirs? The prices seem pretty good.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:38 AM   #16138
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No worries, I should have not been cheap and just ordered a new cover in the first place. Don't worry about me starting it, its likely impossible haha.

I have been ordering my parts on partzilla. Where does everybody go online to get theirs? The prices seem pretty good.
I use bike bandit and ebay mostly. Service honda is pretty good and I've had good luck with xrsonly too. I've heard horror stories about all of them but I haven't had any problems. I've just about ordered a complete xrr one piece at a time too.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:40 PM   #16139
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Just got out on the inaugural run on my new XR. These bikes are beasts!! Not that you all didn't know that already.

Question for you all; everything worked great except after about an hour or so out, it would die when idling. Not that big of deal when I was out in the desert, but not nearly as fun when I'm at a stop light on the way home and it dies just as the light turns green.

Any ideas what I should look for?

Since it is new to me, I plan on changing the oil and checking the valves before my next ride. I would have done that all before this one, but I wanted to get out for a bit while I had the chance.

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Old 02-22-2013, 01:11 PM   #16140
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Ah yes, Henderson, NV. You aren't one of those flatbillers are you? Henderson is lousy with them.

Die at idle? Stock carb? The ususal answer is to clean the carb, which I think should be done yearly anyhow. Adjust your air screw (or it may be fuel screw). Once setup correctly, the stock carb is wonderful for a non-pumper.

Someone will suggest checking your valve clearance, even though you planned on that.

How does the plug look?

Also, there is a mod to the stock carb that may help. Basically disable the decelerator valve. Borynack had the process on his website, but good luck finding it. Its not hard, but I can't remember the steps. Nothing more than putting some silicon in a hole.

Don't let it idle too slow, its not good for it.


If you make it to Lincoln county, let me know. I know a few good rides.



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Just got out on the inaugural run on my new XR. These bikes are beasts!! Not that you all didn't know that already.

Question for you all; everything worked great except after about an hour or so out, it would die when idling. Not that big of deal when I was out in the desert, but not nearly as fun when I'm at a stop light on the way home and it dies just as the light turns green.

Any ideas what I should look for?

Since it is new to me, I plan on changing the oil and checking the valves before my next ride. I would have done that all before this one, but I wanted to get out for a bit while I had the chance.

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