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Old 08-02-2011, 06:30 AM   #9481
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re: oil.

keep it full, keep it fresh.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:03 AM   #9482
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aeroshell 20/50. yes airplane oil. why? cause i can and it scavenges the lead. oh btw i ONLY run 100LL avgas.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:07 AM   #9483
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I just spent a bunch of money rebuilding the top half of my XRR. I want to avoid having to deal with this again! What are some peoples thoughts on oil? I have heard some speak well of diesel engine oil, some like synthetic blends, some like full synthetic oil. I am wondering if people might tell me what they run and why they think it is the way to go? Thanks a bunch!
First off you have to get it broke in properly using a regular oil and get the rings seated. I followed this protocol; http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm

After about 1000-1500 miles I plan to go full synthetic.

Btw, this subject has been beat to death and comes down to opinions. I like the idea of the Delo and other diesel oils because it so readily available.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:23 AM   #9484
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Btw, this subject has been beat to death and comes down to opinions. I like the idea of the Delo and other diesel oils because it so readily available.

A little opinion and some experience...I've been around the diesel oils more than most as a fleet mechanic. The only trouble I've seen is when it comes to roller bearings. Drivers like to let her run going down big grades and it will take out cam bearings when they over rev it too much for too long.

Since the 80's I've run mostly Golden Spectro or Mobil 1 in all of my bikes, I tried Royal Purple once...something about it made the bike leak oil out of everywhere.

I got a KLR and wanted to fit in, like a cheap bastard I ran Delo 400 exclusively...never another kind of oil in that bike. Yup, lost a major roller bearing in the trans at 26,000 miles.

In 30 years of riding, the only bike I've grenaded was run only on Delo 400 oil. Yeah, it was a KLR and I have only heard of one other failure of that same bearing in another bike.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:27 AM   #9485
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Yeah, OK, too big.
This should work:

Dude, nice work.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:35 AM   #9486
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aeroshell 20/50. yes airplane oil. why? cause i can and it scavenges the lead. oh btw i ONLY run 100LL avgas.
Are you running a fixed pitch or constant speed prop on that?

I got lucky, I found a fuel stash in the desert yesterday. It belongs to Best in the Desert, Casey Folks, so I topped off my tank. I was hoping it was Sunoco or vp race fuel for my new motor, but it smelled like regular ol' pump. Should be atleast 91. He included a free t-shirt too. Thanks Casey! Hahahahaha.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:13 PM   #9487
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Are you running a fixed pitch or constant speed prop on that?

I got lucky, I found a fuel stash in the desert yesterday. It belongs to Best in the Desert, Casey Folks, so I topped off my tank. I was hoping it was Sunoco or vp race fuel for my new motor, but it smelled like regular ol' pump. Should be atleast 91. He included a free t-shirt too. Thanks Casey! Hahahahaha.

its a fixed pitch . but seriously the aeroshell quited my motor down ALOT and has ran smoother since. oil FREE gas FREE its a win win. u just cant use any of the oils that say PLUS in the name like 100 PLUS, those contain friction modifiers and with destroy a wet clutch in a hurry.
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:44 PM   #9488
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I rent big single offroad bikes (ktm, xrr, husky, beta, atk) after 1year rentals the motors have the same wear no matter what oil is used. if changed every 1000mi. from $2.25 wolfshead or$22.00 motorex.
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:04 PM   #9489
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In ocean city? What do folks do with them around there?
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:32 PM   #9490
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Shell Rotella T, its JASO rated.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:11 AM   #9491
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I think i have found a Honda XR650R to purchase , i have been wanting to delevop a front and rear rack for this bike for a while now, anybody know what the best design is sofar Thanks, mike
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:20 AM   #9492
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Front rack? I wouldn't waste my time on that, almost none of our bikes are set up the same on the front.

Rear rack with the best quality is probably the ProMotoBillet.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:23 AM   #9493
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I rent big single offroad bikes (ktm, xrr, husky, beta, atk) after 1year rentals the motors have the same wear no matter what oil is used. if changed every 1000mi. from $2.25 wolfshead or$22.00 motorex.

I can believe that, it never gets used...basically keeping new oil in the bikes at all times.

The rest of us actually ride 2500 miles in a week and need an oil that will last. Delo/Rotella isn't that oil for an engine full of roller bearings.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:37 AM   #9494
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FWIW my TL1000S has gone 60k miles with most of those miles on Rotella 5w-40 and has had no roller bearing problems to date. A friend's TLS also went 60k miles and won 2 NHRA championships using exclusively Rotella 15w-40. These are 120+ hp twins that are hard on oil and have a bunch of roller bearings scattered about in the cases. IDK if it has any roller bearings, but my old 7.3L ford diesel is somewhere around 160k miles I think now and most of that has been on Rotella of some sort - no problems there either.
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Old 08-03-2011, 11:37 AM   #9495
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Oil and life experience will always be different, luckily we all have motorcycles in common.


I'm buttoning up my 2002 to sell and it sure is nice...I think I'll take it out for one last trip this weekend.
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