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Old 03-25-2014, 12:40 PM   #1
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SR400 vs Moto Guzzi V7? old guys/gals only

OK, I have posted a number of times on the V7 threads and on the SR 400 threads
now its getting close to time to make a decision...
I'd appreciate any thoughts from the other "seasoned riders" (read that as over 60) on the pros/cons of one vs the other.
obviously both are beautifully done semi-retro bikes. one has shaft/v twin, the other is a kicker, very light and a couple grand cheaper.
this is a bike for me to ride into the sunset, almost entirely solo riding, I'll be doing most of my own service and I anticipate around 8-10k miles a year.
I'll be riding in the rain (I live in the PNW) and I will mostly be avoiding the slab in favor of secondary roads and hopefully lots of jeep trails and unpaved mixed surface riding.
let me hear your thoughts brother and sisters!
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Old 03-25-2014, 01:48 PM   #2
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Damn, i'm too young to leave my opinion here.

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Old 03-25-2014, 02:12 PM   #3
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Edited because I didn't read the entire post and missed the off-road portion.

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Old 03-25-2014, 02:32 PM   #4
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I love the look of that Guzzi, (& the Yammie as well) but I wonder if a shaftie is the right tool for "off road" excursions, especially if you plan to get far from civilization. I've never owned either bike, but in very general terms, just think what the terms " Japanese reliability" & "Italian reliability" bring to mind. As often mentioned, Guzzi dealerships are few & far between & even if you should have one right next door, their parts inventory for your model probably stops at the oil filter. Both bikes appeal to me, (I'm a geezer too) but I can't help but have some reservations about that sweet Italian. I want to spend my golden years riding rather than wrenching.
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:37 PM   #5
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Oh my...My bad. I completely missed the jeep trail and unpaved mixed surface riding.

In that case I would pick the SR400 because it can be turned into a heck of a Scrambler. No way would I take a Guzzi like the V7 off road. Way too pretty for that.

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:12 PM   #6
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I love the look of that Guzzi, (& the Yammie as well) but I wonder if a shaftie is the right tool for "off road" excursions, especially if you plan to get far from civilization. I've never owned either bike, but in very general terms, just think what the terms " Japanese reliability" & "Italian reliability" bring to mind. As often mentioned, Guzzi dealerships are few & far between & even if you should have one right next door, their parts inventory for your model probably stops at the oil filter. Both bikes appeal to me, (I'm a geezer too) but I can't help but have some reservations about that sweet Italian. I want to spend my golden years riding rather than wrenching.
I concur.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:15 PM   #7
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Rear drum brake.... Ya gotta be kindling, not for me. This is the 21st century, yeh, I know it's retro, but it's also a dangerous design. It may play well in the third world but not here.

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:58 PM   #8
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:46 PM   #9
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Oh my...My bad. I completely missed the jeep trail and unpaved mixed surface riding.

In that case I would pick the SR400 because it can be turned into a heck of a Scrambler. No way would I take a Guzzi like the V7 off road. Way too pretty for that.

Blah, Blah....

And a resourceful Guzzisti can make a V7 Stone into this:

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Old 03-25-2014, 06:57 PM   #10
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I think the weights are close.
I think the V7 is a smaller size bike, so if you are a larger person, the sr400 might fit better.

Working on both will be easy, the sr400 a bit easier to pull the motor and other serious work (no driveshaft and so on).
Both should be trouble free.

I would love to own both bikes, but think I would like the sr400 better, lower price, slightly larger size bike, easy to change sprockets (final drive ratio's).

The V7 will be better at speed on the interstate.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:14 PM   #11
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I think the V7 is a smaller size bike, so if you are a larger person, the sr400 might fit better.
From Cycleworld:

SR400
WEIGHT 384 lb.
SEAT HEIGHT 30.9 in.
WHEELBASE 55.5 in.
FUEL TANK CAPACITY 3.2 gal.


V7 Stone
weight 409 lbs
seat height 31.4"
wheelbase 56.6"
Fuel tank capacity 5.8 gal.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:50 PM   #12
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Rear drum brake.... Ya gotta be kindling, not for me. This is the 21st century, yeh, I know it's retro, but it's also a dangerous design. It may play well in the third world but not here.

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Really?? My r100gs. With a drum brake stops just fine, and it's got close to 100pounds more and twice the power of the SR.

Or there's the millions and millions of cars that still use drum brakes.

Assuming its well maintained there is nothing wrong with a drum rear brake. And nowhere near dangerous.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:54 AM   #13
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I'm a old guy but have never ridden either one so I can't say but it would be a tough decision to pick one over the other. I always say you have to live with a bike a while to decide if it is a keeper.
Which ever one that floats your boat? Or buy both.
Oh, rear drum brake is fine, the front does almost all the stopping anyway.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:41 AM   #14
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I lack just a few years to 60, (I'm 52) but my knees give trouble sometimes when I kick my XR200 or Doug's KLR250. Are your knees up to a full time kicker? Those are sure some nice bikes you've picked, please keep us posted.

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Old 03-26-2014, 03:47 AM   #15
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Rear drum brake.... Ya gotta be kindling, not for me. This is the 21st century, yeh, I know it's retro, but it's also a dangerous design. It may play well in the third world but not here.

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Dangerous design? You must be a total beginner without a clue how to use brakes. All 6 of my bikes have rear drums, they work perfectly. I've ridden lots of bikes with front drums as well, only one, a 1966 British bike, was marginal in the braking department, but I certainly wouldn't call it unsafe. It was one of the original cafe racers.

As for the SR400 or the Guzzi V7, I don't see any comparison. The Guzzi costs a LOT more than the SR, and has WAY more displacement. I love the SR, but if I could easily afford the Guzzi, I wouldn't even have to think about it.
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