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Old 03-26-2009, 12:13 PM   #181
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Although not speaking personally, I may just go soft.
Maybe if you had someone hold your nuts, you'd harden right up again.

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Old 03-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #182
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:29 PM   #183
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:39 PM   #184
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I have been here long enough to know it would be mere minutes !
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:42 PM   #185
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Oh make no mistake, thats a reality.

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I think the chances of this may be exaggerated. I wondered and worried (having just spent a ton of cash on Metal Mules), and started a thread with a poll:

Hard Panniers & Broken Legs: Myth or Reality?


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Old 03-26-2009, 02:01 PM   #186
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I don't want to sound critical, BUT...

After reading about the fellows who rode across and back the USA on the old $50 bikes I think a lot of ADV types are more interested in impressing others with who has the biggest and most expensive bags. I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag!

Some of you guys look like the Beverly Hillbillies. For crying out loud man... If you want to carry that much gear, get a trailer, or a sidecar, or a Miata for Christ's sake!

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Old 03-26-2009, 03:02 PM   #187
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I don't want to sound critical, BUT...

After reading about the fellows who rode across and back the USA on the old $50 bikes I think a lot of ADV types are more interested in impressing others with who has the biggest and most expensive bags. I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag!

Some of you guys look like the Beverly Hillbillies. For crying out loud man... If you want to carry that much gear, get a trailer, or a sidecar, or a Miata for Christ's sake!

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Old 03-26-2009, 03:40 PM   #188
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I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag!
Well, that may be fine for you, but I carry everything I need in my purse. Silly!

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Old 03-26-2009, 03:44 PM   #189
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I don't want to sound critical, BUT...

After reading about the fellows who rode across and back the USA on the old $50 bikes I think a lot of ADV types are more interested in impressing others with who has the biggest and most expensive bags. I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag!

Some of you guys look like the Beverly Hillbillies. For crying out loud man... If you want to carry that much gear, get a trailer, or a sidecar, or a Miata for Christ's sake!

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Everyone gets to do their own ride. I don't concern myself with the way others do theirs.

Speaking for myself, I consider myself a lightweight backpacker. I can head off into the Sierras with a 13lb base weight. I sleep on a thin piece of foam, I re-hydrate meals with an alcohol stove and I take just enough to survive.

But when I travel on the bike I take fresh fruit and vegetables, and cook fresh food every night with a big heavy stove. I sleep on a big, thick mattress, I carry a gallon of water if going off road, and on long trips I carry 2 xtra gallons of fuel and lots of tools. I take a mountaineering tent and a tarp. In short, I look like the Beverly Hillbillies But I travel solo and enjoy my own company, so I have no one to answer to but myself.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:01 AM   #190
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BTW, This is not the minimalist thread. In Alaska, there are vast distances between civilization, and we tend to carry enough stuff to get us where we are going. On long rides, i'd rather have too many tools that I didn't use, than wishing i'd brought a few more.
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I don't want to sound critical, BUT...

After reading about the fellows who rode across and back the USA on the old $50 bikes I think a lot of ADV types are more interested in impressing others with who has the biggest and most expensive bags. I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag!

Some of you guys look like the Beverly Hillbillies. For crying out loud man... If you want to carry that much gear, get a trailer, or a sidecar, or a Miata for Christ's sake!

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Old 03-27-2009, 09:38 AM   #191
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... I think a lot of ADV types are more interested in impressing others with who has the biggest and most expensive bags. I can't imagine that anyone who is capable of handling a motorcycle trip isn't capable of packing everything needed for an indefinite time period in a pair of soft saddle bags, a dry bag on top and a reasonably sized tank bag! ... Some of you guys look like the Beverly Hillbillies. For crying out loud man... If you want to carry that much gear, get a trailer, or a sidecar, or a Miata for Christ's sake!
On the basis that there's not one picture in this entire thread depicting anything more than he himself suggests, with the exception of metal panniers in place of soft saddle bags, I think we should all take this post as a blatant troll.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:18 AM   #192
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random question from noob:
can any of you F800GS owners tell me if the weight of the bike laden / unladen listed on the BMW web site is correct? close? way off?
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:37 AM   #193
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... I sleep on a big, thick mattress..
ER:
What's your choice for your Hillbilly pad?
I have an Big Agnes Air Core that I use for camping, but would not mind a bit of an upgrade since I ain't lugging it... Air Core does pack down pretty small which is nice!

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Old 04-01-2009, 09:03 PM   #194
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Hepco Becker Racks

Does anyone have a set of the Hepco Becker racks on a f650 twin or an F800GS? If you do.. post some pics of the naked racks and an opinion of how you like 'em

I'm on the bubble between going with the SW-Motech racks with Caribou cases, or going with the Hepco Becker racks and Caribou cases. I really like how the SW-Motech and Hepco Becker racks pop off quickly when not in use but I have no clue what the Hepco Beckers look like with and without the luggage installed.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:58 PM   #195
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While I don't think they look nearly as nice, it's soft bags for me for what I like to do. My bikes "rest" alot. This set up was for 9 days of mostly off road in baja with camping gear. I had more than enough space. SW quick release racks and wolfman bags.

I guess for me it's a weight thing too. Fully loaded, all my gear probably doesn't weigh a whole lot more than hard bags empty. Not including my tool bag.

I've had my leg stuck under my bags twice already in going through the thick sand on a big bike learning curve without a problem.

If I stayed mostly on pavement I'd go with the hard bags.

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