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Old 11-02-2009, 12:03 PM   #286
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Anybody ever try mounting non-OEM cases to the Vario side frames?

The "frames used to mount the BMW Vario bags seem to blend in well with the bike when the bags are off - very unobtrusive, and they would be even less obtrusive if the bolt at the top-mount wasn't chrome on a black frame ...

Anyway, has anyone ever given thought to mounting Pelican or other panniers to the OEM/Vario frames?
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:53 AM   #287
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Question Redesigned Vario cases?

There's an append here:

http://f800riders.org/forum/showpost...9&postcount=16

Stating that the Vario cases have been redesigned for 2009 and work better... Has anybody else seen a new design?
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:20 AM   #288
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Thumb Cases quest

On my way to find out best cases for me, I ve been lurking around and that is what i found, i still need to know some measures that i would add when i find them, to this same post so everybody can check it.

BMW VARIO 19/28 920mm


BMW VARIO 29/38 1030mm


ZEGA PRO 35/45 , 1134mm


ADVENTURE 38/44 , 1080mm


TOURATECH SPECIAL 41/41 1036mm


ZEGA PRO 31/38


ZEGA 29/35


1200 ADVENTURE 35/45


TRAX 37/45


TRAX


TRAX 37/37


TRAX


METAL MULE 45/45


METAL MULE 31/38


METAL MULE 38/45


RMS BARBQ 35/40 890mm


HEPCO BECKER GOBI


HEPCO BECKER ALU


HEPCO BECKER ALU XPLORER 30/40


DARR 32/36 106mm


CARIBOU (PELI) 36/36


TOURATECH 35/35 1022mm


GIVI


HAPPY TRAILS


JESSES


MICATECH


STAHLKOFFER 975mm


ARD CASES
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:36 AM   #289
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Nice one, alfaris!
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:17 AM   #290
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NICE collection of pictures - to what thread on UKGSrs are those vario pictures attached? I'd like to read the commentary

Here is the spreadsheet I have produced, it is mostly NOT my work but rather the combination of data gathered from the forums. I can't attach it as a spreadsheet but would be happy to e-mail a copy to anybody that wants it. I have it sorted by width (the Varios are listed twice - expanded & compressed). It is amazing to me that the 8" Jesses (apparently) hold 68L in only 33" ... I would like to see that setup in person. "N/A" just means I don't know. Prices are numbers I've heard tossed out.


WidthBrandDetails / Vol ea.Vol. total (liters)CostWt.L/in.
33.00Jesse 8” Safari681,250#N/A2.06 L/in
35.25MotoSport26L cases52960#N/A1.48 L/in
36.00HappyTrail 61L totalcliff cut (others avail.)61823#N/A1.69 L/in
36.20BMW Variocollapsed = 19L + 28L 471,050#N/A1.30 L/in
37.00Jesse 10” Odyssey901,150#N/A2.43 L/in
39.00Caribou35L cases7077033 lbs1.79L/in
40.00Caribou36L on SW-M racks7279032 lbs1.80 L/in
40.10Touratech 29L+35L cases29L + 35L641,190#N/A1.60 L/in
40.25MotoSport37L cases74960#N/A1.84 L/in
40.60BMW Varioexpanded = 29L + 38L671,050#N/A1.65 L/in
40.80Touratech 34L+41L cases34L + 41L 751,699#N/A1.84 L/in
42.50BMW Aluminum 82#N/A#N/A1.93 L/in
40.20Metal Mule31L + 38L - w/ std. exhaust69#N/A#N/A#N/A
43.30Metal Mule38L + 45L - w/ std. exhaust83#N/A#N/A#N/A
40.00Holan America33L + 40L
Rob @ F800 Depot will carry these

73$700 - estimated#N/A#N/A
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:31 AM   #291
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Missing Picture

This one is missing: BMW Adventure Cases with OEM racks:

F800GS with BMW Adventure Cases
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:55 PM   #292
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Old 11-15-2009, 02:58 PM   #293
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there are many pictures missing on the links..............that is ........., i´ll try to replace those pics with other fresh links so you can compare....
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:30 PM   #294
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Alfaris:

NICE collection of pictures - to what thread on UKGSrs are those vario pictures attached? I'd like to read the commentary

Here is the spreadsheet I have produced, it is mostly NOT my work but rather the combination of data gathered from the forums. I can't attach it as a spreadsheet but would be happy to e-mail a copy to anybody that wants it. I have it sorted by width (the Varios are listed twice - expanded & compressed). It is amazing to me that the 8" Jesses (apparently) hold 68L in only 33" ... I would like to see that setup in person. "N/A" just means I don't know. Prices are numbers I've heard tossed out.


WidthBrandDetails / Vol ea.Vol. total (liters)CostWt.L/in.
33.00Jesse 8” Safari681,250#N/A2.06 L/in
35.25MotoSport26L cases52960#N/A1.48 L/in
36.00HappyTrail 61L totalcliff cut (others avail.)61823#N/A1.69 L/in
36.20BMW Variocollapsed = 19L + 28L 471,050#N/A1.30 L/in
37.00Jesse 10” Odyssey901,150#N/A2.43 L/in
39.00Caribou35L cases7077033 lbs1.79L/in
40.00Caribou36L on SW-M racks7279032 lbs1.80 L/in
40.10Touratech 29L+35L cases29L + 35L641,190#N/A1.60 L/in
40.25MotoSport37L cases74960#N/A1.84 L/in
40.60BMW Varioexpanded = 29L + 38L671,050#N/A1.65 L/in
40.80Touratech 34L+41L cases34L + 41L 751,699#N/A1.84 L/in
42.50BMW Aluminum 82#N/A#N/A1.93 L/in
40.20Metal Mule31L + 38L - w/ std. exhaust69#N/A#N/A#N/A
43.30Metal Mule38L + 45L - w/ std. exhaust83#N/A#N/A#N/A
40.00Holan America33L + 40L
Rob @ F800 Depot will carry these


73$700 - estimated#N/A#N/A
It sure is interesting to see these numbers. I just took off my 37" Jesses and installed the 33" ones. Both sets get the best capacity to width ratio, but the 90 L ones was just too big for me.


Jesse is the only manufacturer that takes the time to design narrower bags that have good capacity. The rest just hang their bags on really wide racks.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:56 PM   #295
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Yeah... if I had 90L I'd fill it up and end up carrying way too much crap..

Funny that the Jessies are narrower even than the "custom" designed-to-nestle-right-up-to-the-bike BMW Vario cases and hold more at the same time......

The fact that the Jesse's can be moved forward-aft is a big plus as well.

If only the frames were quick-release... but hey I guess you can't have everything...........

I'm not sure how wide these are yet (from UKGSr) ... but might be interesting for folks with smaller space needs...
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:24 PM   #296
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My Jesse 8" Safari Panniers

I have the 8" Jesse Safari bags on my F800GS and I really like them. The reduced width is comforting. They do make you take care in what you pack but I think that is a good thing. I have an Ortlieb Large Bag on top and I have plenty of space. Rode the CDR this past September with this setup and took more stuff than I needed. The only problem is that I managed to go down on the right side a few times and the pannier collapsed some around the mount and got in the way of the gas filler cap. Had to forcefully pull the pannier back out while still mounted on the frame. You can also use more washers to move the bag out.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:17 AM   #297
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I got the vario cases on my F800 and I find then quite intelligent. I am now planning to buy some inner bags for them.

The BMW Original inner bag is quite expensive. Are they worth the cost? What other inner bags can be used? Does the R1200GS vario inner bags fits in my F800GS Varios?
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:20 PM   #298
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While I don't think they look nearly as nice, it's soft bags for me for what I like to do. My bikes "rest" alot. This set up was for 9 days of mostly off road in baja with camping gear. I had more than enough space. SW quick release racks and wolfman bags.

I guess for me it's a weight thing too. Fully loaded, all my gear probably doesn't weigh a whole lot more than hard bags empty. Not including my tool bag.

I've had my leg stuck under my bags twice already in going through the thick sand on a big bike learning curve without a problem.

If I stayed mostly on pavement I'd go with the hard bags.

I went to Baja for 9 days with Jesse's on and I was too heavy. I just received my Giant Loop great basin soft bag and will use it next time. In Mexico, less is more.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:15 PM   #299
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I just installed Jesse Safari bags and top box on my '10 BMW F650GS. We bought two sets because we are expecting to take delivery on our other 650 in February. The install was interesting. The directions suck but some common sense prevailed. DO NOT tighten anything until you are sure everything is aligned. We also have a clearance issue with the gas tank. I guess we could use more washers to pull the bags away a few mm or just pull the bag out a touch as we open the tank. Also, I think because we have the bag so tightly clamped on the frame I bet we could get away with losing it up too. I will try that one day.

Overall...the construction of these bags are great. Top box can fit a full faced helmet and gear and it does not look HUGE. This brand of luggage is slim and really does not over power the 650 and has quite a bit of storage. The top lid of both side bags with the liner is very convenient and holds more than you think. We bought liners for all the pieces except the top box. No liner available. I am going to line the top box bottom with felt. We got free shipping this month and also bought from Xplorermoto their shield and skid plate. Jesse is coming out with a rad cover for about $85 and I think we will go with Jesse's new rad cover as well. Just like this stuff, looks great and seems to be made well. I have not been able to test anything like going off road yet to be honest. We also bought their engine guard! Here are some pics!






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Old 12-26-2009, 01:16 PM   #300
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I suggest Caribou Luggage

I read this entire post and I have had the old jesse system and the new Caribou 35L. I really have enjoyed the Caribou system and have had it since 2007.

The main differences are:
Metal verse plastic
Frame
Top Loading vs Side Loading

1. Metal vs Plastic - Pelican boxes are lifetime warrenty and are almost impossible to bend and break although are forgiving. I have found with metal once you start bending and fixing it just never seems to fit right. The Caribou system is made to break away and the bracket is stronger than your subframe.

2. Frame - I think Rodger is got it down, as said above the bracket is stronger than your subframe.

3. Top vs Side - well this is a hard one. Yes, top is easier and with some boxes you can use the box to sit on and has a working surface. Although, once you learn how to pack correctly the side loading is not bad.

So, in summary I go with the Caribou System mainly for quality and durability. Not to mention the price is right on!

If pelican made a top loading case all the questions about luggage would all be answered.
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