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Old 12-08-2008, 08:20 PM   #31
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Had no idea what this was.....just looked it up, Michelin has them, looks like that would work too, no flats

What about pressures though, is adjustment up or down important on the ice???

Thanks Alex.
not too familiar with the psi on the ice (the Dr. and RabbieO can probably fill you in) the other concern would be the longevity of short studs and 60hp, multiple layers of carcass obviously give you more structural support, but maybe you can replicate that with higher psi
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:21 PM   #32
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Bib mousse = $230 + tax

Wrecked two tubes tonight trying to shoehorn the back on.
3 guys + 6 tire irons = $400 in beer + $150 tire irons !
Get a bib
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:25 PM   #33
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Pressure dependant

Dependant on whether the ice is hard or soft....hard to imagine that tire could ever be soft.

Do you need to run bead lock with the Michelin man? If you do it's in my garage. I am also ashamed to have never used or had exprience when you need bead locks or not. My tires never drop below 15psi so should it matter.

No blood tonight either. The boy and I kept our gloves on and went start to finish on his rear tire. Not like last year( I screwed his whole bike on Friday night before we went North) til 2am. There is still never enough screws. On a guess we pumped about 800screws into his 16" knobbie and here's hat we ended up with.

http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/...ey=eDFqSWNtgbM

It even held air first try on the original tube. The kid is a great help cause he doesn't drink beer yet .

http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/...ey=eDFqSWNtgbM

I also have no delusions that my new rear tire will be any easier than what you just wrestled with.

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Old 12-08-2008, 08:31 PM   #34
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Dependant on whether the ice is hard or soft....hard to imagine that tire could ever be soft.

Do you need to run bead lock with the Michelin man? If you do it's in my garage. I am also ashamed to have never used or had exprience when you need bead locks or not. My tires never drop below 15psi so should it matter.

No blood tonight either. The boy and I kept our gloves on and went start to finish on his rear tire. Not like last year( I screwed his whole bike on Friday night before we went North) til 2am. There is still never enough screws. On a guess we pumped about 800screws into his 16" knobbie and here's hat we ended up with.

http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/...ey=eDFqSWNtgbM

It even held air first try on the original tube. The kid is a great help cause he doesn't drink beer yet .

http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/...ey=eDFqSWNtgbM

I also have no delusions that my new rear tire will be any easier than what you just wrestled with.

The secret's always in the lube
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that's looking awesome dood !!
you fawkers are getting me hooked already
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:26 AM   #35
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Nice job Drcool,

Done yours yet?
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:13 AM   #36
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Front is sweet and ready to ride on. It even holds air.

I hope to hear from Les today that my rear carcas is in.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:25 AM   #37
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that's looking awesome dood !!
you fawkers are getting me hooked already
No kidding. Damn... 800 screws?
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:20 AM   #38
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Just lurking here, but what is the purpose of those silver side screws?
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:38 AM   #39
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The side screws anchor the liner in the main carcas. An amazing amount of force trying to rotate the outer aainst the inner. The other screws are 11/2 long and screw right into the liner as well. The last liner protects the tube from all the nasty little screw points.

In all there are almost 1500 screws in a pro rear tire. 30-40pounds of spinning buzzsaw.

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:25 AM   #40
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That makes sense.

How think are these liners? Are they just a strip of thick rubber? If so, do you need to get special tubes to fit in, or do you just cram the regular ones in? Sorry about the hijack, but this is interesting stuff!



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The side screws anchor the liner in the main carcas. An amazing amount of force trying to rotate the outer aainst the inner. The other screws are 11/2 long and screw right into the liner as well. The last liner protects the tube from all the nasty little screw points.

In all there are almost 1500 screws in a pro rear tire. 30-40pounds of spinning buzzsaw.

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Old 12-09-2008, 01:41 PM   #41
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That makes sense.

How think are these liners? Are they just a strip of thick rubber? If so, do you need to get special tubes to fit in, or do you just cram the regular ones in? Sorry about the hijack, but this is interesting stuff!
The liners are old road tire of the correct circumfrence in the pro tires. Jr's tires are just a thick rubber strip to stop poking the tube. The tubes fit fine but it can be a pig to get them in with all the extra meat in there. I just use regular tubes as well because I never air down to where you would get a pinch.

When the call comes down that the ice is in you should load your gear, some beer and come to the pond.

keep yer ears on
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:03 PM   #42
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total noob question about the studs.......
Why can't we use the ski-doo ones with the backing nuts?
It would eliminate the need for the additional liners and should hold air if sealed properly is it a weight issue?
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:23 PM   #43
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total noob question about the studs.......
Why can't we use the ski-doo ones with the backing nuts?
It would eliminate the need for the additional liners and should hold air if sealed properly is it a weight issue?
Now that would be feking incredible. 1 1/2" spikes out from the tires.

How about it Robbie
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:32 PM   #44
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Now that would be feking incredible. 1 1/2" spikes out from the tires.

How about it Robbie
no, I actually meant the little wee ones.......
told you I'm a noob
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:41 PM   #45
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I don't fall........................................:norto n

just crash really bad
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