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Old 12-12-2008, 10:27 AM   #16
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Cant wait until one of you guys buys it and posts a good review. Maybe some guy like wan will take it across the u.s.! That would be a blast.

The madass doesnt look very practical. And definatly doesnt look as comfy as a scooter.

What are the advantages it has over a scooter?
Well, obviously it is not going to be as practical as a scooter. It's not a scooter, it's a motorcycle. Advantages: looks cooler, better acceleration, lighter, handles and stops better. Not going to be a great grocery getter but looks like a totally fun mini-hooligan bike to me. I'd like to have one.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:18 AM   #17
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Well, obviously it is not going to be as practical as a scooter. It's not a scooter, it's a motorcycle. Advantages: looks cooler, better acceleration, lighter, handles and stops better. Not going to be a great grocery getter but looks like a totally fun mini-hooligan bike to me. I'd like to have one.

I wouldnt call it a motorcycle even thou it technically is. It resembles a moped.

Can a moped be "cool"? There is something rearlly off about it. But the stats on paper look great. Manual transmission, 200lbs, mopedish looks for parking...
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:48 AM   #18
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Eyes up, look through the turns.

Sheesh.

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Old 12-12-2008, 12:35 PM   #19
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Eyes up, look through the turns.

Sheesh.

Now, let's watch Fred ride the demo for this exercise....

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Old 12-12-2008, 01:58 PM   #20
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What are the advantages it has over a scooter?
I'm sure we can slap on a couple of Jesse cans on that, and it'd be plenty useful. It's usefullness (in the eyes of many) is that it isn't scooter-shaped.
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:14 PM   #21
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A Cub or Trail 90 would work great for me as a commuter and runabout....there's not a place I can't get to in my city if I don't plot a crazy course using the slower roads. I've found that my 50 will darned near do the trick.

So the Madass would be (for me) a sort of modern incarnation of a stripped down little 90 cc...the 125 would work great for me as a wee-beastie commuter. If it's small enough--in that sort of perception that means people don't think twice if it's snugged up next to a doorway somewhere--I think I could still get away with parking it anywhere, which is a big advantage where I work (damn near no parking availalble).
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:08 PM   #22
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Just to have a Sachs would be cool.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:33 PM   #23
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Been waiting for the 125 for years the 50 is cool but realy s-l-o-w
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:11 PM   #24
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yeah I rode a 50. it only topped out at like 24.

kinda slow. but you could tell it would really handle.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:45 AM   #25
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Saw one at Mid-Ohio VMD last year...

Couldn't figure out what it was, no stickers...

Looks like fun.
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Old 12-20-2008, 09:19 AM   #26
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According to the shop in Milwaukee that sells 'em HTB 88cc kits that are as reliable as a claw hammer (from my personal experience) work great on the 50cc versions with automatic transmissions and will give you a kick ass moped--just don't get caught exceeding your state's speed limit for motorized bicycles. The manual tranny 125's will likely accept the 140cc kits available and these too are reliable if you run an oil cooler. The pit bike hot rod motor parts are plentiful for these motors and anyone who knows which end of the wrench goes where can put them together. Everyone needs one of these in their garage!!!
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:57 PM   #27
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Cool2 160cc big bore kit for the madass 125

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According to the shop in Milwaukee that sells 'em HTB 88cc kits that are as reliable as a claw hammer (from my personal experience) work great on the 50cc versions with automatic transmissions and will give you a kick ass moped--just don't get caught exceeding your state's speed limit for motorized bicycles. The manual tranny 125's will likely accept the 140cc kits available and these too are reliable if you run an oil cooler. The pit bike hot rod motor parts are plentiful for these motors and anyone who knows which end of the wrench goes where can put them together. Everyone needs one of these in their garage!!!
actually the engine will accept the 160cc big bore kit without any modifications---bolt it on and go. the kit has a ceramic coated aluminum cylinder, and a big valve head. puts the madass 125 from 11hp in stock form to 18hp. the stock madass 125 will do 60mph and gets remarkable gas milage. a fella rode one across austalia and averaged 135mpg with no mechanical difficulties.
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:02 PM   #28
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rev limmiter holding ya down.

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yeah I rode a 50. it only topped out at like 24.

kinda slow. but you could tell it would really handle.
some folks never removed the rev limmiter. it was put there to keep the 49cc madass under 30mph so it would get classified as a moped in the states that use that speed as a cutoff for the moped registration. it will do about 36-40 mph with it removed.
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:08 PM   #29
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A Cub or Trail 90 would work great for me as a commuter and runabout....there's not a place I can't get to in my city if I don't plot a crazy course using the slower roads. I've found that my 50 will darned near do the trick.

So the Madass would be (for me) a sort of modern incarnation of a stripped down little 90 cc...the 125 would work great for me as a wee-beastie commuter. If it's small enough--in that sort of perception that means people don't think twice if it's snugged up next to a doorway somewhere--I think I could still get away with parking it anywhere, which is a big advantage where I work (damn near no parking availalble).
here is a great trail 90 story turned madass about a guy who rode them both across australia http://www.scootersales.com.au/News-...-sore-ass.aspx
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:10 PM   #30
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The madass is too kewl. not sure if i am ready to sell off the 400 burgman, but the madass would be a gas on deal's gap.
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