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Old 12-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #46
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Scooters should be as low maintenance as possible = no chain drive.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:06 PM   #47
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Scooters should be as low maintenance as possible = no chain drive.
question: what is easier to change, a cvt belt{ and they do wear out ] or a chain ? i have seen the insides of enough cvt scooters to know that a chain and sprockets is as simple as it gets. cvt variators and springs and belts wear out , and are not cheap to replace. maybe you do not have allot of miles on yours yet. i also like the fact that you do not have to remove the toilet bowl seat to get at the engine. i do not know of any two wheeler that is easier to work on, or as low maitainance as the 4stroke honda monkey motor madass.
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:22 AM   #48
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sachs madass 125 arrives in the usa

the sachs madass 125 has passed the epa and carb requirements for all 50 states, and will be here for the first time next month. this is a very popular bike in other countries, and has a very loyal following for lots of reasons, not the least being the look. check out this story about a guy that rode one across australia with no mechanicals, and 135mpg to boot!http://www.scootersales.com.au/News-...-sore-ass.aspx
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:42 AM   #49
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I think I could commute on that (on dirt backroads). I can't wait to see how much it costs.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:54 AM   #50
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I think I could commute on that (on dirt backroads). I can't wait to see how much it costs.

$2500

http://www.moto-scoot.net/sachs_madass_125.php

there's a Madass thread in Vendors.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:35 AM   #51
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Yah. I just searched and found a ton. Also saw the X-Road, which looks cool. I wonder about 135 mpg, though.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:43 AM   #52
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I got 85 mpg over the whole trip described in the article (2.76 litres per 100 kms). Although on one stretch, the rider got 114 mpg (2.07 litres per 100 kms).
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:07 AM   #53
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I'll have to echo that. I thought seriously about a Ruckus 50 to use as an Indiana-legal "moped"--until I bought a shop manual and saw how complicated they are. By comparison the Honda-style motors available from the Chinese have proven to be rock-reliable and easy to work on when they do need it. This is why I put one in the Passport project.

A chain vs. drive belt? The chain is nasty, constantly throws lubricant all over you and the bike if it's lubed correctly and is out in the elements to attract dirt and get rusty. The small chain used on these bikes is easy and cheap to repair, though and your gearing can be easily changed for whatever kind of riding you like to do. If you have an old Cub/Passport or one of the new Symbas that are coming the chain is enclosed giving you the best of both worlds. For convenience and simplicity I think this is the way to go.
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:16 PM   #54
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I got 85 mpg over the whole trip described in the article (2.76 litres per 100 kms). Although on one stretch, the rider got 114 mpg (2.07 litres per 100 kms).
if i scewed-up the milage calculator, it was an honest mistake---math was my worst subject in school. i do know for sure that the sachs madass is a great little trail bike, and we have slipped a pair of dot approved enduro tires on a few of them with great results. http://www.moto-scoot.net/performance.html
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Old 12-25-2008, 08:22 PM   #55
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Id buy it just for the cool name.
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Old 12-25-2008, 08:36 PM   #56
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Are you the only dealer in the USA.

Anybody in the southeast ?
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:52 AM   #57
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Moto-scoot bill, are you a vendor? if you're just informing us about this new scoot, cool.. if you're selling it, I'll move this thread to Vendors
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:16 AM   #58
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Moto-scoot bill, are you a vendor? if you're just informing us about this new scoot, cool.. if you're selling it, I'll move this thread to Vendors
send me over to the vendors , and i will stay there from here on out.
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:01 AM   #59
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I'll have to echo that. I thought seriously about a Ruckus 50 to use as an Indiana-legal "moped"--until I bought a shop manual and saw how complicated they are. By comparison the Honda-style motors available from the Chinese have proven to be rock-reliable and easy to work on when they do need it. This is why I put one in the Passport project.

A chain vs. drive belt? The chain is nasty, constantly throws lubricant all over you and the bike if it's lubed correctly and is out in the elements to attract dirt and get rusty. The small chain used on these bikes is easy and cheap to repair, though and your gearing can be easily changed for whatever kind of riding you like to do. If you have an old Cub/Passport or one of the new Symbas that are coming the chain is enclosed giving you the best of both worlds. For convenience and simplicity I think this is the way to go.
you are right on with the ruckus being overly complicated. the sachs madass is a german engineering marvel, and an example of form following function. everything is laid out design-wise to work, and no other bike has such a great look as a result. the banana swing-arm, the shock, and the downtube of the frame all run in a parallel line. as the rear wheel takes a jolt, the whole percusion travels upwards to the head set, and gets absorbed by the front forks, and not up into the rider. the sachs madass tracks straight through the rough stuff---an awesome handling bike! http://www.moto-scoot.net/sachs_madass_125.php
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:33 AM   #60
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send me over to the vendors , and i will stay there from here on out.
Very cool scoot Makes me want one just cuz it's so cool.. sent ya to Vendors.
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