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booniebasher · 11-16-2012, 01:47 PM

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Hey quys while installing this case saver I noticed my sprocket has play In it ? It is very new as is the shaft? Are they this way even when new or are jt sprockets junk

kubiak · 11-16-2012, 02:02 PM

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Hey quys while installing this case saver I noticed my sprocket has play In it ? It is very new as is the shaft? Are they this way even when new or are jt sprockets junk

its normal, brand new they have slop in them and jt seem to be good sprockets. you can check out the write ups on swithing to a xr650r sprocket, they take all the slop out with a better fit.

kubiak · 11-16-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kubiak

its normal, brand new they have slop in them and jt seem to be good sprockets. you can check out the write ups on swithing to a xr650r sprocket, they take all the slop out with a better fit.

oops i thought i was looking at the xr650l thread, im not sure on the xr600 sprockets? the xr600 guys will know.

Dino3310 · 11-16-2012, 03:11 PM

play as in side to side or back and forth?

hey with that chain gaurd... the top bolt is that on the engine mount?

booniebasher · 11-16-2012, 03:15 PM

Side to side

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Dino3310 · 11-16-2012, 03:19 PM

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Side to side

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all good, some use the xr650r sprockets as they are wider but the side to side movement is normal providing the retainer and sprocket are in good nick

MentalGuru · 11-16-2012, 04:00 PM

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Hey quys while installing this case saver I noticed my sprocket has play In it ? It is very new as is the shaft? Are they this way even when new or are jt sprockets junk

Quote:

Originally Posted by kubiak

its normal, brand new they have slop in them and jt seem to be good sprockets. you can check out the write ups on swithing to a xr650r sprocket, they take all the slop out with a better fit.

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Originally Posted by kubiak

oops i thought i was looking at the xr650l thread, im not sure on the xr600 sprockets? the xr600 guys will know.

You've got the answer right.

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Originally Posted by Dino3310

play as in side to side or back and forth?

hey with that chain gaurd... the top bolt is that on the engine mount?

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Originally Posted by booniebasher

Side to side

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Originally Posted by Dino3310

all good, some use the xr650r sprockets as they are wider but the side to side movement is normal providing the retainer and sprocket are in good nick

Calling SPUD!!!!

mcma111 · 11-16-2012, 05:15 PM

Since the gear retainer index's in the slot on the counter shaft there should be almost no movement side to side. Fore and aft rotation = worn gear and shaft.

booniebasher · 11-16-2012, 06:03 PM

So the xr650 sprocket will work and is better. Does it just bolt up with no mods.?

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lookfar · 11-17-2012, 04:05 AM

Hey All,
I have a problem with my XR.

I am attempting to line up everything on TDC so that I can replace the timing chain, and the markings on the flywheel are nowhere near the inspection hole when on TDC. With the flywheel marks lined up in the inspection hole, the piston appears to be on BDC prior to the compression stroke. Needless to say, the markings on the cam sprocket are way out.

The engine was running before I removed it from the frame..

The marks are on the flywheel are: | | |F |T

got me stumped....any ideas???

mcma111 · 11-17-2012, 06:57 AM

In the small hole on the stator cover you should see the T sideways. The piston will be at TDC. If the cam chain is off it doesn't matter about compression or exhaust stroke. Get the chain on the bottom gear and the top gear like this:

Be sure that the cam lobes are DOWN.

Unless you have removed the stator rotor and installed it 180' out there's no way the piston will be at BDC with the T mark in the hole.

Captain115 · 11-17-2012, 05:40 PM

Hi everyone,

Bought my first offroad bike the other day, 1989 XR600 which has been bored out for a 630 kit. Also came with bashplate, frame protector, larger pegs, new spring, hand protectors, aftermarket headlight and renthal bars.

Previous owner just replaced the front axle, wheel bearings and exhaust valves so shouldn't need to pull apart the engine for a while. Choke lever was broken so I have ordered parts to replace that.

Pretty keen to learn to ride on the dirt too! Pics to follow:

Cheers,
John

lookfar · 11-17-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mcma111

In the small hole on the stator cover you should see the T sideways. The piston will be at TDC. If the cam chain is off it doesn't matter about compression or exhaust stroke. Get the chain on the bottom gear and the top gear like this:

Be sure that the cam lobes are DOWN.

Unless you have removed the stator rotor and installed it 180' out there's no way the piston will be at BDC with the T mark in the hole.

Cheers for that, Steve, It appears to be that sometime in the past, the flywheel has been installed 180' out.
I cannot get the marks to line up with the piston on TDC.

The last guy that was in here didn't own a set of allen keys either, apparently. There are a few allen headed bolts that have been minced by a cold chisel

and a lock nut from the tappet adjustment was loose and floating around.
My guess is that it was dropped, and rather than find it, it was just replaced.

Luckily, it did no damage while it was loose in there.

Alaskajeff · 11-17-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain115

Hi everyone,

Bought my first offroad bike the other day, 1989 XR600 which has been bored out for a 630 kit. Also came with bashplate, frame protector, larger pegs, new spring, hand protectors, aftermarket headlight and renthal bars.

Previous owner just replaced the front axle, wheel bearings and exhaust valves so shouldn't need to pull apart the engine for a while. Choke lever was broken so I have ordered parts to replace that.

Pretty keen to learn to ride on the dirt too! Pics to follow:

Cheers,
John

WELCOME to the kick start club John!

Let the modding begin

lookfar · 11-18-2012, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain115

Hi everyone,

Bought my first offroad bike the other day, 1989 XR600 which has been bored out for a 630 kit. Also came with bashplate, frame protector, larger pegs, new spring, hand protectors, aftermarket headlight and renthal bars.

Previous owner just replaced the front axle, wheel bearings and exhaust valves so shouldn't need to pull apart the engine for a while. Choke lever was broken so I have ordered parts to replace that.

Pretty keen to learn to ride on the dirt too! Pics to follow:

Cheers,
John

Very nice John,

Whereabouts in QLD are you?

11-16-2012, 05:15 PM	#6218
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 8,162	Since the gear retainer index's in the slot on the counter shaft there should be almost no movement side to side. Fore and aft rotation = worn gear and shaft. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

11-17-2012, 04:05 AM	#6220
lookfar from the land of OZ Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Cairns, FNQ Oddometer: 258	Hey All, I have a problem with my XR. I am attempting to line up everything on TDC so that I can replace the timing chain, and the markings on the flywheel are nowhere near the inspection hole when on TDC. With the flywheel marks lined up in the inspection hole, the piston appears to be on BDC prior to the compression stroke. Needless to say, the markings on the cam sprocket are way out. The engine was running before I removed it from the frame.. The marks are on the flywheel are: \| \| \|F \|T got me stumped....any ideas??? __________________ Stu in FNQ The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional. 1985 XL600R 1988 XR600

11-17-2012, 06:57 AM	#6221
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 8,162	In the small hole on the stator cover you should see the T sideways. The piston will be at TDC. If the cam chain is off it doesn't matter about compression or exhaust stroke. Get the chain on the bottom gear and the top gear like this: Be sure that the cam lobes are DOWN. Unless you have removed the stator rotor and installed it 180' out there's no way the piston will be at BDC with the T mark in the hole. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

11-17-2012, 05:40 PM	#6222
Captain115 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Brisbane, the sun-burnt country Oddometer: 113	New '89 XR600 Hi everyone, Bought my first offroad bike the other day, 1989 XR600 which has been bored out for a 630 kit. Also came with bashplate, frame protector, larger pegs, new spring, hand protectors, aftermarket headlight and renthal bars. Previous owner just replaced the front axle, wheel bearings and exhaust valves so shouldn't need to pull apart the engine for a while. Choke lever was broken so I have ordered parts to replace that. Pretty keen to learn to ride on the dirt too! Pics to follow: Cheers, John Captain115 screwed with this post 03-17-2013 at 03:34 AM

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11-16-2012, 01:47 PM	#6211
booniebasher Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Oddometer: 212	Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2 Hey quys while installing this case saver I noticed my sprocket has play In it ? It is very new as is the shaft? Are they this way even when new or are jt sprockets junk

11-16-2012, 03:11 PM	#6214
Dino3310 Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: waikato gravel and sand Oddometer: 630	play as in side to side or back and forth? hey with that chain gaurd... the top bolt is that on the engine mount?

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booniebasher Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Oddometer: 212	Side to side Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2

11-16-2012, 06:03 PM	#6219
booniebasher Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Oddometer: 212	So the xr650 sprocket will work and is better. Does it just bolt up with no mods.? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2