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Old 06-02-2013, 09:41 AM   #8221
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Actually it was the Project Phoenix thread where I built a bike from parts.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669060
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:10 AM   #8222
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Actually it was the Project Phoenix thread where I built a bike from parts.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669060
That's the one !

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" I had planned to get the frame into a roller today but that just didn't happen. I did a few more solvent flush's of the frame oil tank. Good thing I did as there was MORE blast media still in the frame. I must have flushed the tank 50 to 60 times so far. Finally got it to the point where there was no more traces of the media. Finally!! "
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:19 PM   #8223
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Thanks a lot for u words. On monday it will go to the shop and we will check how big damage has been made. Im also in tuch with XR only, they help me to solve that problem, i just need to give them list of the parts i need.
The worst thing now i sto clean the frame, i need to disassemblly whole bike again, so i do not think so i will run on it in next 3 months:(
We will see, thank u for u support!
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:19 AM   #8224
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The worst thing now i sto clean the frame, i need to disassemblly whole bike again, so i do not think so i will run on it in next 3 months:(
We will see, thank u for u support!
Cool . Did you read the thread that Steve ( mcma111) linked to above ?

Don't cut corners , take your time , and do it right . You'll be fine

Keep posting on your progress

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Old 06-04-2013, 02:05 AM   #8225
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I think problem is found and XR only did good job, i just fucked all up.
I write it for others now , i get the lesson .
Some time ago, around january i have posted on this forum that i have found that my frame after sanding it is full of sand and metal parts.
I have cleaned it out, most of it. However some of the send left and i put all bike together ( MY MISTAKE)
The frame was rubish, i should never do it.
Now the send get intoo the oil and inside to th eengine and distroy piston rings and piston itself ( propablly)
I took oil off the engine 10 min ago, and the plugs ( magnetic plugs ) where full of metal dirt, like from the sending. Magnetic plug from the engine has melted metal on it, what indicates that that dirt come intoo engine somehow.
I made a call to XR only, i say about white smoke, and the 1st question was" DID U SEND THE FRAME BEFORE???"


Now my 2 years project, saving money, lot of work is rubish.
Engine needs to be done again, frame is rubish. It needs another 2-4 k USD to finihs it and i think i will give up. Im stupid , i should never put that engine to that frame, it was done, i should buy new frame and starts all over again.
Now if i wonna XR to run i need to buy not only frame but also engine.
So no good and so sad:(
Your frame is fine. You just need to clean out the oil reservoir properly. Earlier in this thread there are pictures from guys who flushed it out 15 to 20 times before they were happy that the grit was gone. I am sure that you don't need to use solvents to do this. Boiling soapy water will do it too. Use a LOT. Do it a LOT. once you're satisfied that it's clean inside, flush with clean boiling water and then blow dry inside with compressed air. The frame is not mild steel, but a chrome moly alloy which resists rust. Just be sure to blow dry the tank when finished.

Your engine will need a careful inspection and rebuild. For you, maybe the best is to find parts in Germany or Austria.. ? (You're in Poland or somewhere like that?)
Don't feel bad, and don't give up. Building is fun anyway!
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:54 AM   #8226
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Thanks a lot for u words. On monday it will go to the shop and we will check how big damage has been made. Im also in tuch with XR only, they help me to solve that problem, i just need to give them list of the parts i need.
The worst thing now i sto clean the frame, i need to disassemblly whole bike again, so i do not think so i will run on it in next 3 months:(
We will see, thank u for u support!
Dont forget the Filter screen on the bottom oil outlet of the frame,A blocked filter cost me the top end of my old 650L.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:35 PM   #8227
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Go start that bitch.
tried to take some pics tonight.




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Old 06-06-2013, 11:32 AM   #8228
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Just an update! Last weekend I went on some extreme enduro ride with my friends. Anyway one of them rides the whole stock 600r and has the oil temperature gauge. I've mounted the xtz600 oil cooler before the ride (see a pics a few post earlier). His temperature was 140 degrees Celsius when we hit the first deep mud and it was boiling. I took the gauge and put it into my bike. Oil temperature didn't go over 80!!! Huge success!!
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:53 AM   #8229
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wow thats huge! congrats

is that as high as the oil will ever get?????????????
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:19 PM   #8230
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Just an update! Last weekend I went on some extreme enduro ride with my friends. Anyway one of them rides the whole stock 600r and has the oil temperature gauge. I've mounted the xtz600 oil cooler before the ride (see a pics a few post earlier). His temperature was 140 degrees Celsius when we hit the first deep mud and it was boiling. I took the gauge and put it into my bike. Oil temperature didn't go over 80!!! Huge success!!
more and more I like the idea of an extra cooler
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:32 AM   #8231
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more and more I like the idea of an extra cooler
It is a MUST! All the problems with head failure are related to overheating!
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #8232
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more and more I like the idea of an extra cooler
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It is a MUST! All the problems with head failure are related to overheating!
A few pages back I asked a question about reliability when installing wiseco and hotcams, etc. Any time you push performance up, you increase heating.
As has been said, even a stock bike has heating problems under certain conditions. My advice is to FIRST fit an oil cooler before you do any other damn thing to the bike.
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:16 PM   #8233
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have any of you guys fitted the xr250 cooler ? the one that wraps around the headstock
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:23 PM   #8234
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have any of you guys fitted the xr250 cooler ? the one that wraps around the headstock
To an XR600? There was a whole thread on it on thumpertalk years ago. Some guy did two on his 600 one right above the other if I remember correctly.
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Old 06-10-2013, 05:18 PM   #8235
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The XR400 cooler is similar , but bigger.
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