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Old 06-16-2013, 02:59 AM   #8266
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looking good Stu

bought myself a little abrasive blaster this week from Super Cheap,tried
it out today,got covered in blast but the alloy is coming up nicely :)
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:22 AM   #8267
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someone say oil cooler......

here's some instructions to fit one

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Old 06-19-2013, 04:43 AM   #8268
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Hey guys,

Wasn't thinking and tried to undo the stator cap with an imperial allen key...grabbed it from the wrong kit. Needless to say it stripped super fast so now I'm left with a circle instead.

Thoughts on how to remove it? Stator cover isn't currently connected to the bike. I know it only uncovers the flywheel to turn it for valve clearances and I could do it with the kickstarter but that sound annoying. Plus, since everything is still apart, I might as well fix it while I'm here.

I've started trying to chisel a cut to use a flat head screwdriver or chisel etc to turn it but no luck. Oh and it isn't siezed as I had it out previously and only tightened it back up a small amount.

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Old 06-19-2013, 04:57 AM   #8269
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Mount the cover back to the engine to stabilize it so you can beat on it. Now get a 1/8" drill bit and drill a hole 3/16 in from the outer lip. Now you have somewhere for your punch to go as you beat the cover off the stator. I'd drill at the 1 o'clock position.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:50 AM   #8270
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Here's what I did

- drill 2 holes for two punches (in my case differently sized)



- place punches in holes

- stick screwdriver sideways through punches

- bunch punches together in your fist (pinching the screwdriver) and use screwdriver as leverage

cover came right out


Works best when having the case mounted, so you can exert some leverage.
Don't drill too deep, 0.2" is plenty. You don't want to risk punching through with the drill and ending up with shavings in the engine.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:07 PM   #8271
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Mount the cover back to the engine to stabilize it so you can beat on it. Now get a 1/8" drill bit and drill a hole 3/16 in from the outer lip. Now you have somewhere for your punch to go as you beat the cover off the stator. I'd drill at the 1 o'clock position.
^^^^ this would be my recommendation
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:25 PM   #8272
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Wrist pin clearance

Does anyone know what the clearance is on the small end of the con rod? Ive downloaded the factory book, but it allows allmost .003. That seems like too much in my mind. Its a 94 xr600, and was quiet on tear down, just using too much oil. Thanks for the info! Tom
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:40 PM   #8273
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:48 PM   #8274
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.024 to .049 Thousand
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:57 PM   #8275
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It's quite common for the small end of the rod on the big XR/XRL's to have some slop. Like a Timex watch, they keep on ticking.

I didn't like how much play was in my son's XRL so my machinist bushed it for me as a favor.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:03 PM   #8276
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Thanks team! And deejay, that pic is definitely worth 1000 words, cheers!

Will try it tonight,

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Old 06-19-2013, 05:32 PM   #8277
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The XR600 standard stator power output is well known to be feeble and its easy to rewind extra coils to increase the available wattage from the lighting circuit.
But what is less well known is the high voltage (separate) winding that feed the ignition is prone to fail if (a) it's old and (b) the bikes done a lot of hard vibration klm like riding over corrugations etc.
What happens is the thin fragile copper wires in the ignition windings eventually get frail after so many heat and vibration cycles, rub together and short or break.
(the thicker lighting wires seem less prone)
This happened to me in the middle of nowhere and just after a set of bad corrugated country roads!
When I spoke with an ex racer of these old girls he said "well known i'd never do a desert trip without carrying a spare"....
Funny how after the fact everyone knows....but never thought to mention it till afterwards.....
So here's a tip.
Get an extra (spare) set of ignition windings added and run the wire under the seat and just leave it wrapped in plastic. If you ever have an ignition winding fail just swap to the backup winding.
Test it by swapping over from time to time.
You have to sacrifice a couple of lighting coils assuming your starting with an upgraded stator with all poles wound.
if you have a standard stator there are plenty of spare poles to stick another backup circuit on anyway so nothing lost.
Pic shows two ignition windings. The rest are lighting. Note two red wires on left are the 2 ignition lines going up under the seat.
Had this working for 2 years now and feel its a good mod. for those on remote trips.

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Old 06-19-2013, 06:05 PM   #8278
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good tip Dave !

I have read a little about rewinding the stator but I figure I might be better
off just paying for an upgraded one..........perhaps I can buy a 2nd hand unit
and have a crack at rewiring one myself
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:15 PM   #8279
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I have a failed ricky stator that one can try rewinding for the cost of shipping if anyone is interested...

or an oem one too...
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