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Old 08-17-2012, 12:20 PM   #1
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2012 ktm 690 supermoto conversion

Just wanted to confirm a couple things to you guys interested in converting the 2012 690 Enduro R.

The SMC wheels still fit up the same as previous model years. The later model tubeless ones will cost you a bit more. But the tubed 2008 SMC wheels still fit up just the same.





The unlock feature for the wheel size calibration has changed back to the old gray/brown wire for the 2012. No pink wire anymore like the 2009-2011. However, it does not appear to be the 18th pin. You can remove the black retainer bar from the connector, remove the gray/brown wire, tape it off, and replace the retainer and reconnect. No adverse affects of leaving the wire disconnected.

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Old 08-17-2012, 02:04 PM   #2
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I love your bike - didn't know newer moto wheels are tubeless...very interesting. At the risk of a shameless plug, what you need now is this: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=817491
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:36 PM   #3
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I love your bike - didn't know newer moto wheels are tubeless...very interesting. At the risk of a shameless plug, what you need now is this: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=817491
Yeah, the 2010 SMC wheels have a seal and run tubeless. But they cost more. I went with the 2008 wheels and tubes.
I would love that slip-on you're selling, but I'm leaving mine stock until the 2012 maps start becoming available. Some guys are running maps from the previous model years, but being as how the 2012 is a true 690, I would imagine the fueling would have to be different than the previous years. So I'll wait a bit.
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Old 08-18-2012, 06:56 AM   #4
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Yeah, the 2010 SMC wheels have a seal and run tubeless. But they cost more. I went with the 2008 wheels and tubes.
I would love that slip-on you're selling, but I'm leaving mine stock until the 2012 maps start becoming available. Some guys are running maps from the previous model years, but being as how the 2012 is a true 690, I would imagine the fueling would have to be different than the previous years. So I'll wait a bit.
What about doing something like a bazzaz or power commander and getting a true dyno tune instead of a factory or home made map?
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:19 AM   #5
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What about doing something like a bazzaz or power commander and getting a true dyno tune instead of a factory or home made map?
I would probably prefer that anyway. It's in my nature to modify everything I own. So the time will come.
I only have 360 miles on the bike.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:38 PM   #6
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Wondering if you would share some more info on how straight forward this was or not?

Brakes - Did you just swap the discs over to the new wheels, any issues?
Gearing - Same rear sprocket size or did you change the drive gearing?
Suspension - With the 18 inch front wheel the front end lowers. Did you compensate for this at all? Any other suspension mods?

I've got a 2012 690 Enduro R and the front end speed wobbles a bit around 65 -75. Lowering the rear to relax the fork rake is supposed to help. Adding the 18 inch front wheel makes the fork rake more aggressive and could make this worse. Have you noticed any issues or had to solve this problem?

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Old 10-10-2012, 12:40 PM   #7
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Forgot about the kickstand. Looks like you put a different kickstand on, right?
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:17 AM   #8
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Wondering if you would share some more info on how straight forward this was or not?

Brakes - Did you just swap the discs over to the new wheels, any issues?
Gearing - Same rear sprocket size or did you change the drive gearing?
Suspension - With the 18 inch front wheel the front end lowers. Did you compensate for this at all? Any other suspension mods?

I've got a 2012 690 Enduro R and the front end speed wobbles a bit around 65 -75. Lowering the rear to relax the fork rake is supposed to help. Adding the 18 inch front wheel makes the fork rake more aggressive and could make this worse. Have you noticed any issues or had to solve this problem?

Thanks,
David
Direct swap, brakes and all. I installed a 42 Tooth rear sprocket.
Remember, even though you're lowering the front, you're also lowering the rear. I did not make any suspension adjustments and it handles fantastic!
I cut the kickstand down 1". Works great with both setups.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:05 AM   #9
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Good looking bike!

What speeds have you had her you to? Usually when converting an enduro and staying with stock suspension the change in geometry creates a bike that turns very well but has bad high speed stability. This is why the 690 SMC and Supermot run a lot less offset in the forks and triples.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:24 PM   #10
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IMG_0714 by toreide, on Flickr

Here is mine. I have the tubeless 12' SMC wheels. Running stock 15/45 gearing and top speed is about 160 kmh. I will definitely go to 15/42. Mine is tuned with the Evo 2 kit and runs very well :)
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:16 PM   #11
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Good looking bike!

What speeds have you had her you to? Usually when converting an enduro and staying with stock suspension the change in geometry creates a bike that turns very well but has bad high speed stability. This is why the 690 SMC and Supermot run a lot less offset in the forks and triples.
I've been up near 100mph with is and it feels pretty stable. Can't complain.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:18 AM   #12
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:56 PM   #13
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Where is the best place to get wheels and what wheels are recommended. Only ones I was able to locate are the excel talons for $1600 +/-. I was also wondering if there was a relocation bracket for a 320mm rotor up front with stock caliper.

So I understand list to convert is:
1) wheels 17x5.00 rear 17x3.50 front
2) Super moto tires
3) 15/42 sprocket combo
4) Cut stand down by an inch
5) Relocation bracket for stock caliper/320mm rotor

Any brand recommendations? I have been researching for past two weeks and there hasn't been a clear cut list. Thanks.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:19 AM   #14
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Where is the best place to get wheels and what wheels are recommended. Only ones I was able to locate are the excel talons for $1600 +/-. I was also wondering if there was a relocation bracket for a 320mm rotor up front with stock caliper.

So I understand list to convert is:
1) wheels 17x5.00 rear 17x3.50 front
2) Super moto tires
3) 15/42 sprocket combo
4) Cut stand down by an inch
5) Relocation bracket for stock caliper/320mm rotor

Any brand recommendations? I have been researching for past two weeks and there hasn't been a clear cut list. Thanks.
-Lance
Here is a link to a few SM options:

http://www.fasterusa.com/ecommerce/s...eelsets/ktm640
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:22 AM   #15
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Here is a link to a few SM options:

http://www.fasterusa.com/ecommerce/s...eelsets/ktm640
Those prices are very good, I just hope they know what they are doing. The application they list as "620/625/640/690" will not work, 690 hubs are wider than the older LC4s.
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