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Old 04-16-2012, 06:10 AM   #15076
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I had a great time on my little trip west Friday night. I took bwalsh's suggestion and hit North River CG. When I got to the CG it was chock full of other campers, so I turned around and found a nice cleared site off the road along the stream.
Nice! I was wondering if the campground would be busy. Glad you found a nice spot away from the other campers.

Just read in the paper the Wolf Gap fire is 95% contained.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:10 AM   #15077
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I can't see it...I would like to see it compared to how my VFR does on dirt...lol
I ditched the slideshow.. didn't seem to be working.

FZ6... VFR.. I say that they are ALL made for dirt.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:11 AM   #15078
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I think today looks like a BBQ day at Pierces!

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:33 AM   #15079
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So, as I was riding around on those forest roads the sharp rocks and harsh chuck holes got me thinking about the possibility of a slashed tire. I always air-down when I'm on those roads, but the PRII's just look like they could get damaged pretty easy regardless. On solo excursions especially, I would like to A. do what I can to avoid a problem and B. resolve it if possible.

The tire pressure recommendations for the bike are below. I generally run them at roughly 34 and 39 respectively and drop it down to the "bottom" limit of 33/36 for rough terrain.

Question #1 - Am I dropping the pressure down enough?
Qustion #2+ - If I slash a tire out there by myself could an inner tube tube potentially save the day? I carry a plug kit and pump, but that can't fix a cut or a slash. I'd happily carry a tube if it would work in a pinch.



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Bad choice of words.

Yes, a tube in a cut tire with a minor wound would certainly get you out of the woods, so to speak - but - the severity of the cut will dictate just how far you'll get.

When Jason cut his tire on the Brrr Ride, we reinforced the inside of the tire with several layers of duct tape. It didn't look pretty, but it got him all the way back home in Johnstown, PA.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:35 AM   #15080
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I had a great time on my little trip west Friday night. I took bwalsh's suggestion and hit North River CG. When I got to the CG it was chock full of other campers, so I turned around and found a nice cleared site off the road along the stream. It was a nice little site with enough downed wood to make for a great fire. Saturday morning I got up early and started somewhat randomly picking landmarks on page 66 of the VA A&G and riding to them. As always the FZ6 handled the forest roads beautifully.

Roads musta been really rough. Jiggled your license plate numbers all around.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:43 AM   #15081
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Roads musta been really rough. Jiggled your license plate numbers all around.

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Old 04-16-2012, 10:41 AM   #15082
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I ditched the slideshow.. didn't seem to be working.

FZ6... VFR.. I say that they are ALL made for dirt.

if thats the case wht kind of tires do you use? and what oil would you recommend?
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:12 AM   #15083
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if thats the case wht kind of tires do you use? and what oil would you recommend?
Not sure about the tires, but you have to use Shell Rotella T Synthetic oil for riding forest roads. It improves traction and could lower your insurance rate by up to 20%.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:58 AM   #15084
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...drop it down to the "bottom" limit of 33/36 for rough terrain.

Question #1 - Am I dropping the pressure down enough?
I drop lower than that, like low 20's psi on street radials.. it makes the ride nicer on dirt/gravel. less skittish. this for < 40 mph riding.

Combine 20 psi on FS roads with Rotella and you will notice your teeth getting whiter and brighter!
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #15085
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I drop lower than that, like low 20's psi on street radials.. it makes the ride nicer on dirt/gravel. less skittish. this for < 40 mph riding.

Combine 20 psi on FS roads with Rotella and you will notice your teeth getting whiter and brighter!



Regarding the "low 20's"... Is that a problem when you find pavement again? I guess I'm wondering if you fill up with a pump/compressor as soon as you hit tarmac again or do wait til you hit a gas station. Sometimes I end up going back and forth dirt/pavement/dirt/pavement and can't see wanting to adjust pressure at every transition.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:20 PM   #15086
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This thread is rating high in entertainment value today.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:36 PM   #15087
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Not sure about the tires, but you have to use Shell Rotella T Synthetic oil for riding forest roads. It improves traction and could lower your insurance rate by up to 20%.
I'll have to call my insurance adjuster and get a discount, that's all I use is Rotella...good stuff

maybe my Road Smart tires aren't good enough for dirt !!!!!!!!
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:52 PM   #15088
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Regarding the "low 20's"... Is that a problem when you find pavement again? I guess I'm wondering if you fill up with a pump/compressor as soon as you hit tarmac again or do wait til you hit a gas station. Sometimes I end up going back and forth dirt/pavement/dirt/pavement and can't see wanting to adjust pressure at every transition.
Yep! 20 psi handles like crap on pavement. I'm just saying you CAN in a pinch go lower and it definitely helps. But you're right - it's not worth it unless you have a long ways. (A mile of soft sand is a long ways in my book ) Otherwise best to just suck it up. I carry a little electric pump that plugs into my lectric vest harness.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:06 PM   #15089
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I'll have to call my insurance adjuster and get a discount, that's all I use is Rotella...good stuff

maybe my Road Smart tires aren't good enough for dirt !!!!!!!!
My Pilot Road II's do seem to do well on dirt. I run skeered from mud though. I've gone though little patches of mud and as you can expect those ST shoes slide all over the place.

And for some reason nobody makes a knobby 180...
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:23 PM   #15090
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That is my problem. I have not switched the little bike to Rotella yet.
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