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Old 12-25-2012, 04:52 AM   #19336
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:36 PM   #19337
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:46 PM   #19338
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New Years Day Ride 11AM Meet in Quinton Food Lion

Here is the information regarding the New Years Day ride that we hope that you and your friends can make for the first day of the 2013 season.

The meet up location is at the Food Lion Grocery Store --2589 New Kent Hwy. "Quinton Va.23141.

It is off I-64 "exit 205 Bottoms Bridge exit. Turn left and continue until you see the shopping center on your right. We will assemble there for a brief safety instructions before departing @ 11A.M.

JHVA will be leading the ride since I am (Rusty Gross) still on the injured reserve list and I will be in my truck to enjoy the festivities & the scenic back roads to the "Rocco's Smokehouse " in Williamsburg will be the final stopping point after the ride. You can eat there and then continue your own ride or head home to watch football and enjoy your day with the family. That is your choice. JHVA says the average prices are in the $8-10 dollar range and up. Ordering will be from your choice on the menu..This is just a fun thing to do and is not any official ride so feel free to bring your friends .
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:54 PM   #19339
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Here is the information regarding the New Years Day ride that we hope that you and your friends can make for the first day of the 2013 season.

The meet up location is at the Food Lion Grocery Store --2589 New Kent Hwy. "Quinton Va.23141.

It is off I-64 "exit 205 Bottoms Bridge exit. Turn left and continue until you see the shopping center on your right. We will assemble there for a brief safety instructions before departing @ 11A.M.

JHVA will be leading the ride since I am (Rusty Gross) still on the injured reserve list and I will be in my truck to enjoy the festivities & the scenic back roads to the "Rocco's Smokehouse " in Williamsburg will be the final stopping point after the ride. You can eat there and then continue your own ride or head home to watch football and enjoy your day with the family. That is your choice. JHVA says the average prices are in the $8-10 dollar range and up. Ordering will be from your choice on the menu..This is just a fun thing to do and is not any official ride so feel free to bring your friends .
I haven't been on a bike in weeks, and on my own bike since...??? I just may have to pencil this one in. Thanks for the post John!
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:46 PM   #19340
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Merry XMas ... :)

Tires in place... :)

No lost fingers. Thankfully.

I had to make my own tire removing tools from stock steel from Lowes... and while they did work, they bent way way too easy. New proper tire tools on order.

Also, watching YouTube for how to remove tires using your kickstand leads to bent kickstands. Nice.

I was able to inflate the rear tire with the 12V pump using a tie-down to ratchet the tired along the circumference and get the seal... however the front tire, no such luck. After several hours last night with the kids wondering WTF is dad doing... I had to give up on the front tire. I did find a gas station today with a proper air tank and the tire inflated and popped into the seal in like 3 seconds. Nice.

I suppose if I want to have confidence that I can fix a flat on the trail using tubeless tires that I need to get a tube as I have no confidence that I can get a sealed bead using the air output of a 12V pump.

In anycase... New Tires! :)

Now to fix the bent center and side stand. Need a bigger hammer...

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Old 12-25-2012, 04:58 PM   #19341
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Tires in place... :)

No lost fingers. Thankfully.

I had to make my own tire removing tools from stock steel from Lowes... and while they did work, they bent way way too easy. New proper tire tools on order.

Also, watching YouTube for how to remove tires using your kickstand leads to bent kickstands. Nice.

I was able to inflate the rear tire with the 12V pump using a tie-down to ratchet the tired along the circumference and get the seal... however the front tire, no such luck. After several hours last night with the kids wondering WTF is dad doing... I had to give up on the front tire. I did find a gas station today with a proper air tank and the tire inflated and popped into the seal in like 3 seconds. Nice.

I suppose if I want to have confidence that I can fix a flat on the trail using tubeless tires that I need to get a tube as I have no confidence that I can get a sealed bead using the air output of a 12V pump.

In anycase... New Tires! :)

Now to fix the bent center and side stand. Need a bigger hammer...

Smiles
Weird, I've never had that much trouble. I have a set of motion pro tire irons. For breaking beads in the garage I have a big C clamp. Never been worried about that on the road. I coat the bead with armor all and have seated tire beads on my DL650 with a hand powered bicycle pump. Never had to do the ratcheting step trick but that may be related to the stiffness of the tire. I have needed higher pressures on some tires to seat the beads but not since starting to lube the bead.

For a bike with cast rims and tubeless tires I'm not sure why I would be pulling the tire instead of just using a plug unless there was a huge gash. If there was a huge gash, I'd be looking for a truck unless for some reason I had a whole new tire with me.

Oh and changing tires gets easier with practice. I do it just often enough to remember how but to forget how much I cuss when doing so.

Oh, and merry Christmas everyone. Looking forward to some Q in a week.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:34 PM   #19342
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I've endeavored to change tubed tires, but I have yet to be able to do the whole thing soup to nuts myself... when I apply the BFH technique a whole lot of not much happens (even when the guys try to help by spinning me up -- which really is counterproductive because I end up laughing); I'm better with the tire irons. Jeremy, is there a link on using a C clamp? Up to now this hasn't been much of an issue for me as the FFs at CBPH&G have been willing to lend an assist on scheduled tire changes, and I figure unscheduled ones could be handled with a cell phone and credit card if I'm not on a ride with 20 some people together carrying the equivalent of a well-appointed garage. But I have it in my head to ride to central Mexico at some point and the prospect of getting a flat that I can't repair in the middle of BFE Mexico doesn't excite me. Probably not going to happen in 2013 as other fun is vying for time on the calendar. Nonetheless, at some point I'm going to need to 1) learn a handful of tricks that help me get the job done, or 2) go tubeless and rely on the plug/wait for truck approach.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:44 PM   #19343
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Jeremy, is there a link on using a C clamp?
I guess I should clarify. I don't use the clamp on tires I plan on using again. Just get big enough clamp and tighten. As the sidewalls pull together one of the Beads will pop loose. If I was planning on keeping the tire I'd put a thin piece of wood between the clamp and the tire to keep from over stressing the sidewall. Without that, you get a little circle indentation on the sidewall from the clamp. I have a big 8 inch C clamp that is what I use. It just fits around the rear tire of the strom. First used them when I changed my first set of tires on a ninja 250. I didn't always know better so I would just try whatever I thought works. I think the clamp cost about $15 at Lowes. Probably find a cheaper one at Harbor Freight.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:49 PM   #19344
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I guess I should clarify. I don't use the clamp on tires I plan on using again. Just get big enough clamp and tighten. As the sidewalls pull together one of the Beads will pop loose. If I was planning on keeping the tire I'd put a thin piece of wood between the clamp and the tire to keep from over stressing the sidewall. Without that, you get a little circle indentation on the sidewall from the clamp. I have a big 8 inch C clamp that is what I use. It just fits around the rear tire of the strom. First used them when I changed my first set of tires on a ninja 250. I didn't always know better so I would just try whatever I thought works. I think the clamp cost about $15 at Lowes. Probably find a cheaper one at Harbor Freight.
Ah, got it. Thanks.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:52 PM   #19345
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This one works but anyone look at the new Motion Pro tire Bead Pro (irons/bead breaker)? The first one fits in my tool tube. The Bead Pro would take up less room and fit under the seat of the Wee.

http://www.aerostich.com/bead-breaker.html


http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FUjZQgod8gcA4A


Get Boon Booni to show you how to use this method. I was nto able to make it work reliably.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458452
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:13 PM   #19346
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Reminds me I need to order tire iron/axle nut wrenches for my WR. That would allow me 3 irons to do that method of Booni's.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:17 PM   #19347
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This one works but anyone look at the new Motion Pro tire Bead Pro (irons/bead breaker)? The first one fits in my tool tube. The Bead Pro would take up less room and fit under the seat of the Wee.

http://www.aerostich.com/bead-breaker.html
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http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...FUjZQgod8gcA4A
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Get Boon Booni to show you how to use this method. I was nto able to make it work reliably.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458452
Taking notes - thank you!
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Old 12-25-2012, 07:47 PM   #19348
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Looks like a great tool.

What I'll probably be packing on my next trip. I'm going to order this before I need a new rear tire. I've got TKC 80's with about 2500 miles on them so it will probably be in about 500 more.
http://www.bestrestproducts.com/c-98-beadbrakr.aspx
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:16 PM   #19349
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:51 AM   #19350
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Taking notes - thank you!
go see Guy and have him demo his bead popper. he carries one, as i do also. very easy to use, tubeless or tube type. small and light for travel, but i routinely use it in the shop too. very easy and fast.

you're not going to carry a big C clamp in your panniers, but you can carry a bead popper as part of your tire service kit.
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