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Old 12-26-2012, 12:04 PM   #19366
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Guy, looks like you have your first class coming together for you.
I'm wondering if it is presumptuous of us to be assuming Guy would have a class?

Yes there are a couple words that mean the same thing in that sentence. Mind isn't working right after deciphering what is and is not a local call from Philly and all the ways you have to be allowed to dial all 4 Philly area codes. I am yet again amazed telephones work at all.

I still have to do the same thing for Boston and San Francisco. Stupid telephones. Why can't NPA NXX actually have real meaning when it comes to local versus long distance? Maybe I wasn't really ready to come back to work.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:47 PM   #19367
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I've seen jdRocks use that little bead popper on our way back from W. Va one day. He had that tire changed in no time. I've not had the same luck with it, but I know it works well.
The first time I tried that tool, for some reason expected to drive it in one place until the bead "popped" off - which of course didn't happen. After Dave explained the proper technique, tried again working back/forth over 16" of the rim and it did ooch the bead away from the rim a little on each pass and eventually came off. Was expecting something more dramatic - it's called a popper not an oocher.

I think the trick with both the bead popper or the tire iron pry method is don't try to break the bead in one shot in one spot. Rather finesse it over a foot or so of rim, keep widening the gap till it's off.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:21 PM   #19368
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I'm wondering if it is presumptuous of us to be assuming Guy would have a class?
Grinning emoticon = humor intended. Hope your day brightens Jeremy!
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:28 PM   #19369
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I'm wondering if it is presumptuous of us to be assuming Guy would have a class?

Yes there are a couple words that mean the same thing in that sentence. Mind isn't working right after deciphering what is and is not a local call from Philly and all the ways you have to be allowed to dial all 4 Philly area codes. I am yet again amazed telephones work at all.

I still have to do the same thing for Boston and San Francisco. Stupid telephones. Why can't NPA NXX actually have real meaning when it comes to local versus long distance? Maybe I wasn't really ready to come back to work.
Bring me a wheel with a mounted tire, and I'll show you how to use it.

Admittedly, some are a little easier than others. Starting out I usually whack it at 90 deg. increments around the tire. If no go, I drop back to 45 deg. segments and continue on. USE NO lube on the tire/rim joint during the breaking process. Tried that once; just doesn't work.

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Old 12-26-2012, 03:30 PM   #19370
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Grinning emoticon = humor intended. Hope your day brightens Jeremy!
I assumed it was obvious that it was just me being bored and stirring the pot while procrastinating at work. Turns out Boston is a bit more sane with their dialing rules. 10 digits for local and 1+ 10 digits for long distance which made things a little less complicated for the rest of the day.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:49 PM   #19371
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USE NO lube on the tire/rim joint during the breaking process. Tried that once; just doesn't work.

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i always spray the bead area with commercial tire lube, allows the popper to slip against both tire and wheel.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:38 PM   #19372
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Ho Ho Ho post Christmas greetings

I'll wander out tomorrow and see what the Honda will do, but we received 6-7" of snow today and it is gorgeous outside. It is still snowing and we may get a bit more tonight. I'll fire up the CRF150F and see if the knobbies can handle it. We tried the XR650L with DS tires yesterday and it was all over the place, even in only 1" of snow. Go figure.

Hope everyone survived the rain event today. Bet that mud road in West Point will be super tomorrow.

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Old 12-26-2012, 04:49 PM   #19373
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...We tried the XR650L with DS tires yesterday and it was all over the place, even in only 1" of snow....Bet that mud road in West Point will be super tomorrow...jeff
Ya, the big pig needs knobbies to have any kinda handling plus some other bits like a fork brace make a big difference...springs for my weight helped alot as well...the mud road was on my mind today as it poured down...
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #19374
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Hope everyone survived they rain even today. Bet that mud road in West Point will be super tomorrow.
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Probably would be but seeing how it's still hunting season the dogs and deer will be running could be in for some interesting maneuvering at speed.

I'm sure Todd will be itching to get his detailed GS back out in the muck!
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #19375
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Ya, the big pig needs knobbies to have any kinda handling plus some other bits like a fork brace make a big difference...springs for my weight helped alot as well...the mud road was on my mind today as it poured down...
I think I would need some trash bags for my boots before riding it again. I'm sure it will have plenty of frozen skin on the puddles by Sunday. Too bad, I doubt my parts for my brake will be here before that. While the zip tie worked great I have a feeling I shouldn't push my luck with it. Will just have to ride the Wee and avoid the mud.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #19376
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On tube tires I've decided that the "3-tire-iron, pry bead away from rim", aka Boon-Booni method is as good (or better) than the bead popper and no additional tools required. Still toting the bead popper as backup though since it's so small/light.
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Bring me a wheel with a mounted tire, and I'll show you how to use it.

Admittedly, some are a little easier than others. Starting out I usually whack it at 90 deg. increments around the tire. If no go, I drop back to 45 deg. segments and continue on. USE NO lube on the tire/rim joint during the breaking process. Tried that once; just doesn't work.

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I've got an old KLR rear wheel, with tire mounted that I don't want. Maybe you could use it for your instructionals? I've had it about 7 years, got it off ebay for a project that never amounted to anything. I've never tried to remove the tire. It's a bit beat up, with some bend spokes, seized bearings etc. Free to an abusive home.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:36 PM   #19377
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I'm sure Todd will be itching to get his detailed GS back out in the muck!
You guys would have been proud...it must have rained out on the mud road before Xmas day...my son Nick & I hit it Xmas day, it was the worst I had seen it. Even with the TKCs, I was struggling with the big pig. Nick said I looked like a trapeze artist trying to balance that bike waving my legs & arms all over. I was just trying to keep my butt from becoming part of the mud road. Well it got so dirty I actually left it out in the rain today to wash it off.

Don't worry John, I will detail it tomorrow after I get home from work.

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Old 12-27-2012, 07:15 AM   #19378
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Belated Merry Xmas to all.

Got back from Marlinton, WV late yesterday afternoon after spending Xmas with the youngest son, his wife and the grand daughter. What is normally a 3.5 hour drive was 9.5 thanks to the ice / snow and idiot drivers.

I followed a idiot from the RT 39 / 42 intersection in WV all the way to the Dollar General @ Goshen, VA at about 10 - 15 mph, I guess the SOB needed to get to the 50% off after Xmas sale

We had a white Xmas with about 3" of snow, but yesterday morning when I got up at 5 a.m. it was snowing and sleeting pretty heavy, probably had another 3" - 4" at that time and it was coming down really heavy.

The only accidents we saw was on RT 64 from RT 81 through C'ville, there were cars and pick up trucks on their sides and roofs, must have been close to a dozen. Saw a fellow in a new Camaro hydroplane going up Afton Mtn. and end up heading east in the west bound lane, he ended up in the median strip.

Gotta love my 07 Subaru Outback though, not a lick of problems, no wheel slip, no nothing.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:24 AM   #19379
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Belated Merry Xmas to all.

Got back from Marlinton, WV late yesterday afternoon after spending Xmas with the youngest son, his wife and the grand daughter. What is normally a 3.5 hour drive was 9.5 thanks to the ice / snow and idiot drivers.

I followed a idiot from the RT 39 / 42 intersection in WV all the way to the Dollar General @ Goshen, VA at about 10 - 15 mph, I guess the SOB needed to get to the 50% off after Xmas sale

We had a white Xmas with about 3" of snow, but yesterday morning when I got up at 5 a.m. it was snowing and sleeting pretty heavy, probably had another 3" - 4" at that time and it was coming down really heavy.

The only accidents we saw was on RT 64 from RT 81 through C'ville, there were cars and pick up trucks on their sides and roofs, must have been close to a dozen. Saw a fellow in a new Camaro hydroplane going up Afton Mtn. and end up heading east in the west bound lane, he ended up in the median strip.

Gotta love my 07 Subaru Outback though, not a lick of problems, no wheel slip, no nothing.

+1 for Subaru. Although I haven't even put my winter tires on yet this year.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:47 AM   #19380
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.. We tried the XR650L with DS tires yesterday and it was all over the place, even in only 1" of snow. Go figure.
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Ya, the big pig needs knobbies...
knobs or not, XR-L is hopeless in snow. I vote mullet..
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