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Old 06-15-2014, 06:21 PM   #20071
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:37 PM   #20072
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Happy Father's Day to those of you FF's who are one...

From my 13 yo daughter...

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Old 06-15-2014, 06:41 PM   #20073
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+1, that girl wants her own bike I'll bet.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:30 PM   #20074
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the big O (no, not that O!)

I turned around and hit Damneck when I saw the signs at O. I am not a fan of trespassing, or risking an arrest just to pursue a hobby… too much to lose at this point in my life. I'm just frustrated to lose the best place to ride in the city.

For those that own land, how often do folks call you asking to use your land? If they do call, what is your typical answer? Just curious.

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It could be a lot more than that - the landowner can sue you for whatever he wants to - property damage, mental anguish, etc. YOu could quickly end up having to hire a lawer, etc.

Having been sued once, and one part of the three part list was tens of thousands of dollars for 'damages' and 'anguish', I learned from my lawyer that literally anyone can sue anyone for anything. All goes to court and you'd better have a lawyer (you need a lawyer so you don't screw up the legal process/proceedings).

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Bingo.

As a property owner, the best thing you can do to protect yourself is to post your land. Provide your contact information. You're not outright banning people from your land, simply asking that they contact you and ask permission first.

If those signs are up, nobody, NOBODY has permission to trespass. Assumed or otherwise. Whether you think you know what's best for the property, or not.
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Three of us rode the O spot nearly every sunday this past winter. It was the best area because the sand (less mud). Some days as many as 12 riders showed up. Guys on race bikes. There was talk of the jeeps etc. ruining the trails by making holes ,ruts . Around february someone started cutting down large trees and using logs to improve a jump. Soon after more large trees were downed in what looked like an attempt to block off 4 wheel access to the northern bowl area. This was bad and we knew it. We never saw anyone doing the cutting.
Toward the East side signs exist saying City Property. Flint Marine did some work on the lake with the zipline( that was fun!) and the lake is to be filled.
This area has a long history of use. I was told there was a BMX track at one time. well that's all for now.. 5 ways in,10 ways out
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Old 06-16-2014, 02:51 PM   #20075
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occassionally someone asks, maybe once a year

and if I've never met them initial answer is no, but I'm willing to discuss your specific interest in using it (how often, bring anyone along, etc). I've had folks stop me on the road at my property and bluntly ask permission to fish (no introduction, no 'hi, how are you', etc). catches me off guard and puts me on the defensive and gets a firm no.

I'm less open to it now after a couple experiences. I'm always surprised by what folks think is ok for them to do in their minds.

I suspect some landowners don't mind, especially a development company sitting on something.

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:07 PM   #20076
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The general local unwritten rule seems to be just go ahead and trespass until someone says something to you. Then there excuse is that there mama's brothers cousin used to live there 20 year's ago so its OK for them to hunt there. And you the landowner are a total a..hole for saying anything to them about it. If asking someone to stay off our land without permission makes me a a..hole then I am proud to be one. PS drag your bike under one off my gates one time and see what happens. AB:-)
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:26 PM   #20077
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our local sheriff won't respond to a trespassing complaint unless the property is legally posted.

i once spoke to a guy about where he was hunting, and it turned out he was hunting some land i owned. he didn't know i was the owner.

my advice to him, don't get caught in there.
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:34 PM   #20078
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Local feedback is post your land

When we bought our rural parcel 15 years ago, I wasn't worried about posting it. But as I met folks on our road, many born and raised up there, they shared that you should post it.

I think it fits in with good fences make good neighbors.

I'm lucky, I only have two adjacent neighbors, 2.5 sides are national forest and they mark the boundary clearly.

I've got a few good friends how hunt and fish. I"m surprised they've been asked proof of
landowner permission to fish by the rangers before.
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:37 PM   #20079
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Great Fathers day!

This showed up and I was informed it was a fathers day gift from the 'girls' (wife and three rescue female dogs)! I forgot how much fun a real (read no digital readouts, not FI, etc) motorcycle is....

It appears that after a little over a year, my MBD is back (Mulitple BIke Disorder).....it's a constant battle....

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:49 PM   #20080
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Marc,
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This showed up and I was informed it was a fathers day gift from the 'girls' (wife and three rescue female dogs)! I forgot how much fun a real (read no digital readouts, not FI, etc) motorcycle is....

It appears that after a little over a year, my MBD is back (Mulitple BIke Disorder).....it's a constant battle....

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:53 PM   #20081
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Thanks Shannon!

Hope you had a great Father's Day!

This Bonneville is a blast. I have to remember to use the petcock again!


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Old 06-16-2014, 06:33 PM   #20082
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...2.5 sides are national forest and they mark the boundary clearly.
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:25 AM   #20083
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:51 AM   #20084
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You've done the red mark painting?!

I've always wondered what it would be like to do that job. On the plus side, some great hiking/etc. as you wander through the woods. Of course I'm sure there is some pretty tough terrain.

Maybe you can answer a question, I noticed a large boulder (half the size of a VW beetle or so) with three red, horizontal lines, one above the other, painted on it. It was about 10 feet from a river. Is that a mark the national forest would use?

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Old 06-17-2014, 12:21 PM   #20085
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Doctors be damned, I'm tired of sitting at home. I'm hitting some dirt this Saturday. Got the whole day to myself. Anybody else headed out west?
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