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Old 06-18-2012, 11:36 AM   #3196
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Prop control failure...
He walked away!

http://www.rexburgstandardjournal.co...#axzz1yAgm2W5c
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:26 PM   #3197
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I should have been more clear.

The sponson ammo storage on the Sherman wasn't isolated from the crew compartment as it is in modern tanks. On the right side of the Sherman, there are two sponson ammo storage areas and each is roughly bisected by the front and rear edges of the turret race. The left side has only one sponson storage locker located at the front. The plates welded on the sides protected the crew from being killed by a sponson ammo detonation. Protecting the sponson ammo became critical because a discharge would enter the crew compartment instead of blowing out the side or top as in modern tanks.
But made little practical difference. The ammo bins, even the "wet storage" ones were just sheet metal. Get a penetration and its as likely to hole and ignite the opposite side's bin as the one directly behind the armor. This is why later marks of Shermans moved almost all of the ammo down into the lower hull under the turret basket.

The only applique panel which made any real difference was the one on the right side of the turret that covered a spot where the armor was thinned to accommodate the traverse mechanism. The rest were only helpful if you got lucky.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:42 PM   #3198
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Prop control failure...
He walked away!

http://www.rexburgstandardjournal.co...#axzz1yAgm2W5c
That was at the friday night preview... We were going to go to the sat show but didnt make it. Saw that on the front page news sat morning... Glad he was all right! He didnt really "walk" though, he broke an ankle and was hauled off on an atv. Close enough!
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:41 PM   #3199
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But made little practical difference. The ammo bins, even the "wet storage" ones were just sheet metal. Get a penetration and its as likely to hole and ignite the opposite side's bin as the one directly behind the armor. This is why later marks of Shermans moved almost all of the ammo down into the lower hull under the turret basket.

The only applique panel which made any real difference was the one on the right side of the turret that covered a spot where the armor was thinned to accommodate the traverse mechanism. The rest were only helpful if you got lucky.
True with respect to the bins themselves. The appliqué armor was really only helpful on deflection shots. Straight on and it would still get punctured by a Hitler Jugend with a slingshot.

My dad restored 3 Shermans before finally calling it quits last year at age 71. He served part of his time in the Army at Tooele Army Depot rebuilding armor.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:03 PM   #3200
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:22 PM   #3201
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It is an aviation thread so you have to include:

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Old 06-20-2012, 09:36 PM   #3202
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Rucky it wasn't an MD-11

Here's a vid of an ANA 767 landing in NRT yesterday. Copious teeth sucking ensued.




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Old 06-21-2012, 04:43 AM   #3203
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Ouch. Looked like an RC aircraft landing.

You think that wrote off that airframe or would it buff right out?
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:49 AM   #3204
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WTF??? Man that was a bad landing. Any explanation as to what happened? Flared too early?
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #3205
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Looks like the pilot had a pretty strong crosswind from his right side. Looks like he was carrying some extra airspeed with the right wing low, which would be expected.

When the right main gear impacted the runway, the aircraft porposed onto the nose wheel.

Shock on the nose wheel compressed it to the stop with enough energy to wrinkle the aircraft skin.

Probably left a mark on some passengers and/or crew...

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Old 06-21-2012, 10:03 AM   #3206
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Probably left a mark on some passengers and/or crew's underwear!...

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Old 06-21-2012, 10:07 AM   #3207
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:29 PM   #3208
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WTF??? Man that was a bad landing. Any explanation as to what happened? Flared too early?
Flared late, I think.
He was landing on 16R and the winds were about 230 at 19 gusting to 29 (right to left crosswind). The low hills around around the airport make it turbulent down low, especially in gusty conditions. FedEx piled up an MD-11 landing the opposite direction on that runway a few years ago in a similar bounce, pitch down PIO scenario. FedEx bounced it off the nose twice.

It looked like he either flared late or picked up a sinker in close. Either way he pulled back hard enough that the airplane skipped when the right main contacted (impacted?) the runway. It's hard to tell just how hard the first touch down was from the outside. If it was hard enough, it could have thrown the crew forward and that would account for the rapid nose down pitch. Since the only gear that touched was the right main, I don't think they hit that hard. My guess is that the pilot was in a hurry to get the nose wheel on the ground following a high work load approach, got task saturated or, at least fixated on the ground rush in close, and didn't realize that he was back in the air after the initial touch down. He pushed the yoke forward and was surprised when the nose kept going below the horizon.

Items in the overhead bins may have shifted...
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:00 PM   #3209
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worked on this today



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Its going to be stripped internally, cleaned, painted and used for a display at a museum. Going to take what I can from the inside and sell for souvenirs on ebay.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:50 PM   #3210
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My mate Al rebuilt this.......

argh!

my embeding never seems to work......

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enjoy

Al's neighbours must love him.......
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