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Old 11-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #8746
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Hey guys & gals... Just thought I'd pass this along here as I know there are plenty of you that ride trials. I happen to have a customer that stopped in today looking to sell his trials bike. I didn't know much about it (nor do I need it) but I told the guy that I knew some trails guys here that may be interested and that I'd pass it along here. He thought it may be a 50cc, although when he started it up, it sounded more like maybe a 100 or a 125cc even, to me. The whole bike seemed to be there and complete and runs really well. I asked him how much he had to have for it and he said $800. That seems a really fair price, but then again, this is outta my market so I may be way off. Anywhoooo... if any of you guys are interested, shoot me a PM and I'll hook you up with the name & # of the owner of it...




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Old 11-14-2012, 05:22 PM   #8747
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Here ya go Woodsrat. TU250. Get the pipe out from under it and add a high front fender. Fuel injected.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #8748
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #8749
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its a 50cc beta cool mini bike

somebody buy this for their kid for xmas (so I can ride it)

http://youtu.be/0_O17Wgfyeg
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:58 PM   #8750
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Izzat Photoshopped? Or a Japanese market bike we don't get? The tank reminds me of a '71 Duster (the 125, not the Mopar).

The TU is way too complicated for my simple mind. I picked up a shop manual for one at Vintage Days and was blown away that an entire 72 page chapter is devoted just to diagnosing F. I. problems. A great bike and people love it but way too much for me to understand. In my warped mind motorcycles are supposed to be simple, lightweight machines you can fix on your own. Sadly they're getting away from that. The new CRF-250L the guy at Dreyer South keeps trying to sell me is probably a wonderful bike but 320 lbs. for a two-fiddy and complicated to boot???

Probably gonna keep what I have unless somebody comes out with something better. I don't understand F. I. and probably never will so controlled leaks are probably going to be in my future a long, long time.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #8751
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The first pic is Japan only TU250 Grasstracker. The second one I chopped.
The street legal TU250's available here could easily be made into this bike.

Whoever's been riding that TU for the last few rides, I can make your bike like this!!
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:27 PM   #8752
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What Jeff Said

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Jeff doesn't post often so listen when he does.
Jeff took the words right out of my mouth. I'm a former GS1100 owner who downsized to a DR650, so I know where he is coming from. I think he should post more often.......
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:39 PM   #8753
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I coundn't agree more....

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Yup. Before I swapped it for a new '86 XL-600R I did a lot of the typical riding we do around here on backroads on an '82 stripper Gold Wing. A big, heavy sumbitch it was but it also had a low CG and was very confidence inspiring on gravel roads for such a huge bike. The gas tank was mounted low, the air cleaner high and even a little shit like myself felt comfortable aboard it without the fear of it toppling over like I do when I ride modern long-travel "adventure bikes."

The same thing could be said of the street model boxer BMW's. In the early '70's--long before the G/S made it's appearance--their ads featured riders blasting about off the pavement and this was because they were lightweight and narrow between the knees. They didn't have a lot of suspension travel and sat nice and low. Add in the natural low CG of the boxer motor and you ended up with a bike that was very confidence inspiring in all conditions.

It's something I've been questioning for a long, long time. Do non-competition streetgoing bikes really need 9-12" of suspension travel? Modern suspension technology have made vintage off-road bikes a lot more fun to ride than they were when they were new. There's no reason the manufacturers couldn't build a practical "adventure" bike using the modern technology used in vintage aftermarket replacement suspension with no more than 6" of suspension travel that would get the CG down to a more manageable level for more riders. Imagine how many more bikes they'd sell if riders weren't so intimidated when they straddled heavy adventure bikes with tall seat heights in the showroom.

I used to loaf a lot at the old Greenwood Honda and saw it time and time again when a prospective customer came in looking for a recreational (non-competition) dirt bike, saw the towering seat heights on the motocross-derived off-road bikes they offered--and then headed over to look at the quads. I think the industry has shot themselves in the foot in this respect.

Like the letter-to-the-editor in the latest Cycle World said "Stop marveling at the sheerness of the emperor's new clothes and admit the dude is nude. Aggressive tires, clown-stilt suspension and wishful thinking will not transform a quarter-ton street bike into anything remotely dirt-worthy." Couldn't have said it better myself.
I couldn't agree with you more! I've been thinking for a long time that 6-7 inches of quality suspension is all I would need on an adverture/dual sport bike. Hell, I'm too old (54) to riding at an MX pace while I am offroad. Besides, I do some of my best riding when I can get my feet on the ground (LOL)!
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:50 PM   #8754
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Izzat Photoshopped? Or a Japanese market bike we don't get? The tank reminds me of a '71 Duster (the 125, not the Mopar).

The TU is way too complicated for my simple mind. I picked up a shop manual for one at Vintage Days and was blown away that an entire 72 page chapter is devoted just to diagnosing F. I. problems. A great bike and people love it but way too much for me to understand. In my warped mind motorcycles are supposed to be simple, lightweight machines you can fix on your own. Sadly they're getting away from that. The new CRF-250L the guy at Dreyer South keeps trying to sell me is probably a wonderful bike but 320 lbs. for a two-fiddy and complicated to boot???

Probably gonna keep what I have unless somebody comes out with something better. I don't understand F. I. and probably never will so controlled leaks are probably going to be in my future a long, long time.
Once again I have to agree with you on FI. Hell, I own a 1973 Ford Ranchero with 4 barrell carb. However, I have to remind myself I could have said the same thing about electronic ignition and disc brakes. The pointless ignition I won't give up, but drum brakes are very simple although they lack the stopping power. I guess I'm getting too old for all of this new fangled technology......
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:01 PM   #8755
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Here ya go Woodsrat. TU250. Get the pipe out from under it and add a high front fender. Fuel injected.
I dig it, wish it was oil injected two stroke though..
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #8756
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I love my KTM 640 Adventure. It's great for most all of the riding I do around here. I did the TWAT on it and I even rode the Buffaloe 500 and the LBL 200 on it. It performed well on technical single track, but it's a big fat pig to wrestle around. A Rekluse clutch would make it much easier in those tight conditions... I also love my Husqvarna TE 310, it shines in the tight woods sections and it comes from the factory street legal, so there are no worries connecting sections of trail together. I've had a blast on it at Redbird, Interlake, and LCRP. I took it to the LBL 200 this year and had an absolute blast with it. It is limited on top speed due to the close ratio six speed. It's really happy at 45 or 50, but 65 or 70 MPH is really screaming the motor, so it's definitely not well suited to long stretches of pavement where you are trying to make time.

I think I have the best of both worlds with these two bikes, but if I were in the market for one single bike, it would have to be the Yamaha WR 250R. Light weight, fuel injected, wide ratio gear box, adjustable suspension and relatively comfortable ergonomics with a little better seat and some bar risers.

It will run 75 MPH all day long, handle tight single track and will get great fuel economy. I'd put a safari tank on it, a better seat, some bar risers and bark busters along with some Wolfman luggage and it would do anything you asked it to do.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:00 PM   #8757
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My signature obviously shows im in agreement.
Me two. IF I only could have 1 bike, it would probably be a 650 single. Really like the new Husky.

Loved my KLR but I found a great deal on a WR a few years back that I couldn't pass up. Wanted something even more road worthy (and heaver) than the KLR plus all the techno gewgaws so I got the Tenere. Think I've got the best combo for me and my limited skills.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:49 PM   #8758
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The tu250 guy check'n in

I pretty much agree with everyone on the bikes and choices.

I love that my KLR 250 can clear a pretty large downed tree, but I sure have taken a lot of dangerous spills that I might have avoided if I could more easily touch the ground. It's amazing difference how much lower the center of gravity is on the TU250. I've also been amazing that the short suspension and big seat of the TU is not as comfortable as I expected on the road. That said, I'll ride either bike for 300 miles a day, no modifications required. I've found the gearing on the KLR 250 ideal, low enough for all the tight woods and steep hills I've found, but high enough gearing and power for running interstate speeds when I need to.

One interesting observation was that it's harder to pick up the TU than the KLR, (yep, I've dropped 'em both several times) even though they weigh in about the same. I guess the KLR height gives the leverage needed!

I plan to install lowering links for the KLR and see how that goes. oPAULo, thanks for the offer to redeisgn my TU, but all I want to change is a plate over the rear fender for a big camp touring bag. I like the specifications of the stock engine/exhaust, and although the pipe is exposed, I've had a good time riding the "road ends in water" dead ends around lake monroe and the camp trail at Hardin's creek were especially fun. Reminds me of when I rode the woods on my dad's 1950 whizzer motor bikes, the limitations kinda make it more fun.

As both on and off road minimalist adventure rider, I'm thinking my 2 bikes are about right. I don't plan to do much of the technical off road trails that a dedicated off road bike requires, I expect the KLR to handle the MCCCT, hope to find out as soon as it warms up for a 10 day trip in the spring. I also expect the TU will do the Tennessee TAT nicely.

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Old 11-15-2012, 04:34 PM   #8759
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #8760
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Getting a dirtbike again tomorrow. Feels pretty good. Nice to be able to say it, should be even better to ride it. A Yamaha TTR225, so not street legal.

Thought I would post for any southeast Indiana riding spot recommendations. All I really need is an empty field, a bit of gravel...
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