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Old 01-26-2013, 07:17 PM   #9901
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I'm gonna have to skip it this week too. Headed to pick up a '74 Honda MT250 Elsinore that my brother bought off FleaBay last week. Will bring it back home to store it until he gets out here from NY to pick it up.
Cool bike. Condition?
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:40 PM   #9902
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Ok Brownies for lunch Sunday noon. For any newbies its between Nashville and Morgantown on 135.

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Old 01-26-2013, 07:47 PM   #9903
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With that, you could give'm the whole "18 Yards"...
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:38 PM   #9904
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So I had my DR350 acting a bit strange tonight. Bike started up fine despite the cold with no issues and I rolled over to a buddies house. A few hours later when I went to leave again it wouldn't turn over and i realized I had left the gas on. It started to turn over but it would not crank at all. You could hear the starter kick in but no actually cranking. I figured the battery was wimping out from the cold so I went to push start it, ran down a hill, hopped on, and dumped the clutch in second gear. Didn't turn over and just skidded to a halt, tried 2 more times and same skidding and no turning over. I rocked it back and forth in gear and then the starter cranked it after that and it ran fine.
So what I'm guessing I did was hydro-locked it with fuel? Oil smells a bit gassy, so I'm gonna change the oil tomorrow, but I guess my main question is, full speed trying to push start a bike that's hydro-locked capable of doing any internal engine damage?
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:45 AM   #9905
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So I had my DR350 acting a bit strange tonight. Bike started up fine despite the cold with no issues and I rolled over to a buddies house. A few hours later when I went to leave again it wouldn't turn over and i realized I had left the gas on. It started to turn over but it would not crank at all. You could hear the starter kick in but no actually cranking. I figured the battery was wimping out from the cold so I went to push start it, ran down a hill, hopped on, and dumped the clutch in second gear. Didn't turn over and just skidded to a halt, tried 2 more times and same skidding and no turning over. I rocked it back and forth in gear and then the starter cranked it after that and it ran fine.
So what I'm guessing I did was hydro-locked it with fuel? Oil smells a bit gassy, so I'm gonna change the oil tomorrow, but I guess my main question is, full speed trying to push start a bike that's hydro-locked capable of doing any internal engine damage?
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:36 AM   #9906
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Idea--instead of the normal lunch on Daytona 500 Sunday if somebody will supply a suitable place to do it with a TV I'll buy the pizza/soft drinks and we'll make a party of it. A big garage or barn with a little heat would be fine.

We could also make it into a tech day, too. The one we had at oPaulo's a few years back proved to be extremely successful and it was amazing how much we got done in such a short time.
Sounds like a good time. I don't care about watching something with four wheels driving around in a circle for four hours but I would be down for hanging out if I had the day off. Now I just need to find something that needs worked on, anyone got a Harley I can barrow?
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:25 AM   #9907
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Sounds like a good time. I don't care about watching something with four wheels driving around in a circle for four hours but I would be down for hanging out if I had the day off. Now I just need to find something that needs worked on, anyone got a Harley I can barrow?
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:55 AM   #9908
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So I had my DR350 acting a bit strange tonight. Bike started up fine despite the cold with no issues and I rolled over to a buddies house. A few hours later when I went to leave again it wouldn't turn over and i realized I had left the gas on. It started to turn over but it would not crank at all. You could hear the starter kick in but no actually cranking. I figured the battery was wimping out from the cold so I went to push start it, ran down a hill, hopped on, and dumped the clutch in second gear. Didn't turn over and just skidded to a halt, tried 2 more times and same skidding and no turning over. I rocked it back and forth in gear and then the starter cranked it after that and it ran fine.
So what I'm guessing I did was hydro-locked it with fuel? Oil smells a bit gassy, so I'm gonna change the oil tomorrow, but I guess my main question is, full speed trying to push start a bike that's hydro-locked capable of doing any internal engine damage?

frank is busy today but sure he will chime in later. but yes.... that will roach a rod in a minute, especially by push starting! odds are....you are ok since it is running fine.

my ol dr350 did same thing.... only worse. it had a puddle under it where was leaking from air box cover? i hit starter one time and it went grrrrrr.... i stopped straight away! pulled plug and hit it again... shot fuel all the way cross barn! it had leaked into cylinder... backed up thru carb into air box and filled that till it leaked out outer cover!

i squirted some wd40 into cylinder and changed oil, drained air box and re oiled filter.

but the real culprit here was bad o rings in carb, and thats prolly your problem as well. you may wanna replace those. oh... and next time it don't crank... pull plug first to verify cylinder isn't full.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:55 AM   #9909
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Ok Brownies for lunch Sunday noon. For any newbies its between Nashville and Morgantown on 135.

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Don't think I can make it today maybe next week
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:01 AM   #9910
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Cool bike. Condition?
From the pics that I seen it appeared to be really great condition. I'll be sure to get pics and post 'em up once I get the bike back to the store. I did talk to the seller and he even had the original title in hand

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frank is busy today but sure he will chime in later. but yes.... that will roach a rod in a minute, especially by push starting! odds are....you are ok since it is running fine.

my ol dr350 did same thing.... only worse. it had a puddle under it where was leaking from air box cover? i hit starter one time and it went grrrrrr.... i stopped straight away! pulled plug and hit it again... shot fuel all the way cross barn! it had leaked into cylinder... backed up thru carb into air box and filled that till it leaked out outer cover!

i squirted some wd40 into cylinder and changed oil, drained air box and re oiled filter.

but the real culprit here was bad o rings in carb, and thats prolly your problem as well. you may wanna replace those. oh... and next time it don't crank... pull plug first to verify cylinder isn't full.
+1 ... about the only thing that I would add is to be SURE to ground out the spark plug (as far away from the plug hole as possible) after removing it from the cylinder and you begin to crank the bike over. If you don't, be sure to have a package of hot dogs & a long stick close by so you'll have something to munch on as your bike goes up in a fireball of flames from raw fuel spewing out and hitting that nice blue spark plug. Also, as TPar mentioned, raw fuel is gonna spray outta that cylinder a long ways. It may be best to do this outdoors. Once the cylinder is cranked dry, be sure to changed your oil & filter and then pull the carburetor and fix the initial problem that caused this whole mess in the first place.

99.9% of fuel related issues that I see multiple times on a daily basis results from the use of ethanol-ladened fuel that we're forced to buy in the country now. It's corrosive, it softens & eats rubber components, it's NOT fuel efficient, it draws moisture right out of the air & it's starts to go bad in as short of time as little as 30~45 days...oh, and the shortage of corn now being used to make worthless fuel to burn also leaves the food industry with an easy excuse for price increases across the board. (supply & demand) Unfortunately, the same stupid friggin' idiots in Washington that are trying to take the rest of our civil liberties in this country, thought it was a good idea to make gasoline from corn Everyone knows, corn should be used for making whiskey!!
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:07 AM   #9911
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Thanks for the responses everyone.
Yeah normally I don't think i would have immediately tried push starting but i was guessing the not turning over was due to the cold affecting the battery....live and learn I guess. Although I no longer have the vacuum petcock as I have the acerbis tank the left one may be leaking as there was some fuel around the outside of it today. Gonna hopefully do some fooling around with it today and see if I can solve some issues.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:36 PM   #9912
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ebay has the rebuild kits for dr carb pretty cheap. or if you are close enough just stop by franks shop. he says he has all o rings in stock. pick up an extra set and throw in tool box... cuz you will need em again.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:14 PM   #9913
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5 of us showed up for lunch today at Brownies. Good food, good fellowship. 2 of us were even on bikes :-)
Made it home ok, slightly warmer on the ride home (by a couple of degress) than going up there. Hope everyone made it home ok.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:20 PM   #9914
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I noticed same thing.. Fingers n toes not cold on way home and I was toasty warm too. But when it started raining I high balled it for home.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:31 PM   #9915
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1974 Honda MT250 Elsinore...

Well, I made it to B-ton today to pick up the '74 Honda MT250 Elsinore that my oldest brother found in Indianapolis on FleeBay. Not bad shape for a 39 year old bike really. I will tinker with it to get it running and then park it until he wanders out from upstate NY to pick it up and take it home to ride. Production date of the bike is 8/73, which makes it a '74. The bike also came with the original title dated 04/03/74 when the bike rolled off the showroom floor for $860.00 +tax. How cool is that??!? Neat stuff that brings back a ton of memories...








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