KTM 690E - All Things Suspension Related - Page 5

crankshaft · 03-21-2011, 11:39 AM

Hey Guys, ready to pull the trigger on a set of forks for my 690R, anyone looking for a very low mileage front fork to bring an E up to R specs?

FriedDuck · 03-21-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CHRIS_D

Will do!!

Did you ever bite the bullet and get the suspension work done? C'mon man, we need a guinea pig!

Jeff

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CHRIS_D · 03-21-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FriedDuck

Did you ever bite the bullet and get the suspension work done? C'mon man, we need a guinea pig!

Jeff

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No sorry not yet. I have spent way too much money already on stuff I may or may not need.

LukasM · 03-22-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GS simp

How do the 950/990 forks compare to the 690r ones lucas, can i change mine to say 950 adventure forks so i can have full adjustment.
cheers steve

Hi Steve,

Not sure why you would want to change to 950 Adv forks? Yours offer the same adjustability (except maybe the preload caps, not sure if the 690 has them?).

olec · 03-22-2011, 12:21 PM

Where can I source another stiffer spring for the rear? I know about that "new" 95NM spring offered on those rally sites, but wat about other rates?

What is your view on taking one of those 250 or 260mm's and cut to proper length? Will I get some issues with the cutted end?

Thanks!

risniak · 07-26-2011, 10:22 PM

hello from munich!

I bought a exc fork for my 690 enduro with 5cm more travel. do you have solutions for the rear shock? use the 690 enduro r damper and improve it? i would like to have 30cm travel at my rear shock- is this possible?

thanks and greetings,

risniak

The Letter J · 07-27-2011, 12:28 AM

You can use a shorter internal spacer to get 10mm more travel (measured at the wheel) on the rear shock. Doing that to the R shock gives you 285mm. In theory you could get a little more shock travel out of it with an even thinner spacer, but the swingarm would smash into the rear brakeline/master cylinder/mount at full extension. If you look at the rally models, the rear master cylinder is positioned differently to work around this problem.

risniak · 07-27-2011, 03:54 AM

thank you- my wp-dealer will change the internal spacer.

crankshaft · 07-27-2011, 04:58 AM

I had my SXS forks lowered 1/2" because of the limitations of the rear shock/swingarm. Honestly, it works great and I've never missed that 1/2", it goes down the nasty trails just fine. I still think my 690E suspension was much better right out of the box than the R suspension., not sure why but it's true.

The speedo pickup bracket from RR works like a champ also, so if you guys go EXC style forks, it's a must.

11485 · 11-18-2011, 01:30 PM

Sorry for a basic question...

I understand (please corrrect if incorrect) the difference between the e and the r is about an inch or so in suspension travel and a black frame instead of an orange frame.

So- if I buy a nice, used e bike with the intention of having the suspension reworked, will the e bike's suspension then be the same as an r bike? Are they the same forks/shocks but with different internals?

I'm reasonably tall, and unconcerned about ride height.

Thanks.

bobzilla · 11-18-2011, 02:36 PM

different parts
you can make the e close but it costs a lot

11485 · 11-18-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bobzilla

different parts
you can make the e close but it costs a lot

Thank you, and again, I apologize for what was surely contained in the dead mega-thread, but:

What is the nature of the difference between the e and the r? Is there a way to quantify it?

I'm beginning the hunt for a bike, and I'd like to know if having an R represents a significant gain in suspension performance- worth paying a lot more for the bike. There seems to be a good supply of e bikes, not so much the r.

Thanks again.

bigborefan · 11-23-2011, 01:53 PM

I got an E. I don't think there is a huge difference. The R has a little more travel. I don't know if the valving or action is any better. The R has the cool orange frame and different plastic. The R looks good. I think the R has a weaker head light and a different speedo/computer.

Didn't Crank say he liked his E suspension better than his R?

I bought mine in 08 when there was no R in the USA, but I have no regrets. I ride mine pretty hard. I ride with guys on 450/525/530s and have no problems until it gets tight.

If there is a huge difference in price, get an E, you'll like it just fine.

And that 690 mega thread, that thing is brutal. I quit looking at it myself.

Dazed Productions · 11-23-2011, 02:32 PM

Just to add back into this thread, i have a 690e and found the suspension very harsh. Backing off preload on the rear helped and I have stuck some 2008 sxf 250 forks on it with about 20mm above the yoke (this is still higher than my stock forks even with the added sag). The harshness is now mostly gone and the bike is stable but I am still thinking of fitting a softer rear spring

Gros Buck · 11-23-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigborefan

I got an E. I don't think there is a huge difference. The R has a little more travel. I don't know if the valving or action is any better. The R has the cool orange frame and different plastic. The R looks good. I think the R has a weaker head light and a different speedo/computer.

It's not only more travel, the suspension is realy better ...

Paul Jr

07-27-2011, 04:58 AM	#69
crankshaft Guns are for pussies Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Burlingtron,VT Oddometer: 13,783	I had my SXS forks lowered 1/2" because of the limitations of the rear shock/swingarm. Honestly, it works great and I've never missed that 1/2", it goes down the nasty trails just fine. I still think my 690E suspension was much better right out of the box than the R suspension., not sure why but it's true. The speedo pickup bracket from RR works like a champ also, so if you guys go EXC style forks, it's a must. __________________ Just say'IN

11-18-2011, 02:36 PM	#71
bobzilla Dirty Old Man Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Lost & Found again in the Great Basin Oddometer: 772	different parts you can make the e close but it costs a lot __________________ Ride the DEZ 05 FE 550 Husaberg plated 09 KTM 690

11-23-2011, 01:53 PM	#73
bigborefan ^OP Making new friends Joined: Jul 2007 Location: USA - Midwest, Central Illinois Oddometer: 694	I got an E. I don't think there is a huge difference. The R has a little more travel. I don't know if the valving or action is any better. The R has the cool orange frame and different plastic. The R looks good. I think the R has a weaker head light and a different speedo/computer. Didn't Crank say he liked his E suspension better than his R? I bought mine in 08 when there was no R in the USA, but I have no regrets. I ride mine pretty hard. I ride with guys on 450/525/530s and have no problems until it gets tight. If there is a huge difference in price, get an E, you'll like it just fine. And that 690 mega thread, that thing is brutal. I quit looking at it myself. __________________ 2010 KTM 530 XC-W / 2009 KTM 950SE I don't know everything, but what I don't know, I lie about

11-23-2011, 02:32 PM	#74
Dazed Productions Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2010 Oddometer: 188	Just to add back into this thread, i have a 690e and found the suspension very harsh. Backing off preload on the rear helped and I have stuck some 2008 sxf 250 forks on it with about 20mm above the yoke (this is still higher than my stock forks even with the added sag). The harshness is now mostly gone and the bike is stable but I am still thinking of fitting a softer rear spring __________________ www.dazedproductions.co.uk

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03-21-2011, 11:39 AM	#61
crankshaft Guns are for pussies Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Burlingtron,VT Oddometer: 13,783	Hey Guys, ready to pull the trigger on a set of forks for my 690R, anyone looking for a very low mileage front fork to bring an E up to R specs?

03-22-2011, 12:21 PM	#65
olec Rookie Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Norway - the land of the Vikings Oddometer: 265	Where can I source another stiffer spring for the rear? I know about that "new" 95NM spring offered on those rally sites, but wat about other rates? What is your view on taking one of those 250 or 260mm's and cut to proper length? Will I get some issues with the cutted end? Thanks!

07-26-2011, 10:22 PM	#66
risniak n00b Joined: Apr 2011 Oddometer: 0	hello from munich! I bought a exc fork for my 690 enduro with 5cm more travel. do you have solutions for the rear shock? use the 690 enduro r damper and improve it? i would like to have 30cm travel at my rear shock- is this possible? thanks and greetings, risniak

07-27-2011, 12:28 AM	#67
The Letter J lost in the 690 mega Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Santa Maria, CA Oddometer: 319	You can use a shorter internal spacer to get 10mm more travel (measured at the wheel) on the rear shock. Doing that to the R shock gives you 285mm. In theory you could get a little more shock travel out of it with an even thinner spacer, but the swingarm would smash into the rear brakeline/master cylinder/mount at full extension. If you look at the rally models, the rear master cylinder is positioned differently to work around this problem.

07-27-2011, 03:54 AM	#68
risniak n00b Joined: Apr 2011 Oddometer: 0	thank you- my wp-dealer will change the internal spacer.

11-18-2011, 01:30 PM	#70
11485 n00b Joined: Nov 2011 Oddometer: 4	Sorry for a basic question... I understand (please corrrect if incorrect) the difference between the e and the r is about an inch or so in suspension travel and a black frame instead of an orange frame. So- if I buy a nice, used e bike with the intention of having the suspension reworked, will the e bike's suspension then be the same as an r bike? Are they the same forks/shocks but with different internals? I'm reasonably tall, and unconcerned about ride height. Thanks.