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Old 06-04-2009, 12:24 PM   #16
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Hola, I have run into those between department border checks maybe a half dozen times in Guatemala, not to mention the random police checks along side the road. The one I described at Cardenas has been there for at least the 9 years I've been going there. Granted, they are usually asleep or busy with semi-trucks, but I have been stopped there and given the full check: passport, vehicle sticker, engine and frame numbers check to the papers and title, etc. Also, there is almost always a border checks b/t states in Mexico, as I'm sure you know with all your miles in C.A.. In general, I just don't think it's a great idea to be without proper paperwork, it inevitably leads to trouble, and who needs that. As I said before, I hope they get all their crossings with complete services soon, or get an amiable border guard like you got. Saludos, Eduardo
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:46 PM   #17
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Because there is NO GUATEMALA ADUANA office there they can NOT provide you with the Temporary Import papers which are, sort of , required.
Is there any update of this situation...a full service office yet?
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:49 PM   #18
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You got my interest on this. Since I haven't read any posts with updates on the situation since I last passed thru El Ceibo this past March I just now did a search on ask.com . Using this inquiry framework " gobierno de Guatemala ,servicios fronterizas,SAT " and that got an encouraging result. SAT is the agencywhich does the temporary import paper work.
Try it. It produces a www.senado.gob.mx/sgsp/gaceta/anero.php?archivo=60/3/20...
Anyway, the ask.com synopsis states that they are looking at getting a mobile SAT office set up on the Guatemala side of the border at El Ceibo .The ask.com blurb does not mention a timeframe. The sooner the better.
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:59 PM   #19
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You got my interest on this. Since I haven't read any posts with updates on the situation since I last passed thru El Ceibo this past March I just now did a search on ask.com . Using this inquiry framework " gobierno de Guatemala ,servicios fronterizas,SAT " and that got an encouraging result. SAT is the agencywhich does the temporary import paper work.
Try it. It produces a www.senado.gob.mx/sgsp/gaceta/anero.php?archivo=60/3/20...
Anyway, the ask.com synopsis states that they are looking at getting a mobile SAT office set up on the Guatemala side of the border at El Ceibo .The ask.com blurb does not mention a timeframe. The sooner the better.
Hola, I couldn't get the link to work, but a SAT office would be great. Maybe we can get some riders to fill us in what they have there. Gracias for the hope anyway, it would sure be convenient for me this winter. Saludos
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:54 AM   #20
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Go the www.ask .com route Mex government site which is the record of events ,acts passed in the senate ( gaceta) concerning the bi-governmental cooperation on Mex-GT border issues and it is 14 pages from Feb'09 about setting up the SAT office at El Ceibo.
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:57 PM   #21
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Go the www.ask .com route Mex government site which is the record of events ,acts passed in the senate ( gaceta) concerning the bi-governmental cooperation on Mex-GT border issues and it is 14 pages from Feb'09 about setting up the SAT office at El Ceibo.
I found these photos of the new Mexican aduana in El Ceibo, and in another search found a bunch of stuff on the bids for construction of the Guatemalan SAT/Aduana office. The bids were opened up in September, so knowing Guate, I don't expect the permanent office will be done by this winter, a mobile office sounds more likely. Still looking though. Saludos



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Old 10-19-2009, 01:32 AM   #22
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do what ever it takes to get to Tikal!
it IS one of those place you MUST see before you die.



Flores is a way cool town/island to stay in/on

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Old 10-19-2009, 08:08 AM   #23
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do what ever it takes to get to Tikal!
it IS one of those place you MUST see before you die.
Flores is a way cool town/island to stay in/on
Amen. Tikal is definately a "bucket list" site, and when the crossing at El Ceibo is completed with full services, it will be the ideal route from Palenque for those heading further south or to the east through Belize and onto Chetumal and the Mexican Caribbean. Saludos

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Old 11-03-2009, 03:01 PM   #24
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Confirmed that the border office on the Mexican side has full services. Banjercito is closed on Mondays though, so you can't cancel or obtain a vehicle importation permit on a Monday.

Still no SAT office on the Guatemalan side. I'll try to get the Flores SAT to give me an importation permit ... and if not, I guess I'm going to Belize.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:34 PM   #25
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Confirmed that the border office on the Mexican side has full services. Banjercito is closed on Mondays though, so you can't cancel or obtain a vehicle importation permit on a Monday.

Still no SAT office on the Guatemalan side. I'll try to get the Flores SAT to give me an importation permit ... and if not, I guess I'm going to Belize.
Thanks for the confirmation. Let us know about the SAT office in Flores and the importation permit. It's only an hour and a half from Flores to Menchor, but I'll be heading south from Flores and would rather avoid the round trip to the Belize border. Saludos
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:48 PM   #26
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The SAT office in Flores wouldn't do the permit. They said it has to be done at a border. It's been raining almost non-stop for a week, and the road to Melchor isn't fully paved yet (about 30 km unpaved) so I skipped the border run. I'll try the SAT office in Antigua on Monday, and if they won't do it, I'll see what happens at the Salvador border next week. Wish me luck! To date though, there hasn't been a single police/army checkpoint that I've passed in Guatemala.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:14 AM   #27
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Thanks for the updates.
The SAT officers can be really annoying sticklers for protocol.
Like I said earlier , your best bet is to head for the Florido Copan crossing to Honduras where the guys are much more understanding as they deal with a regular stream of tourists.
Sorry if that messes up your plans for El Salvador, but from Copan you can still head south to Santa Rosa Copan and south of there enter western ES.
Do NOT try using the Aguas Caliente crossing to Honduras , where I encountered the big annoying problem with SAT this spring.


This is my picture of the El Ceibo entry from Mexico

This is downtown business district of El Ceibo ,Guatemala, old town up on hillside

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Old 11-11-2009, 03:21 PM   #28
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Here's the word about SAT offices after crossing at El Ceibo. Any old SAT won't do. It has to be one with an Aduanas (customs) office. Aduanas are ONLY at the border stations and in GC. So, if you cross at El Ceibo, plan on going back out there, heading to Belize, stopping in GC (ugh! I'd almost rather go to prison!) or seeing what happens when you hit the border on the other side.

On the positive side, I've crossed Guatemala from one side to the other without being stopped by police for any reason, and without passing by a single military check point. So, getting to another border station is entirely realistic imo.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:11 AM   #29
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Last comment here. The Guatemalan border officers didn't give me any trouble at the San Cristobal crossing. I asked the guys at the aduanas office if I needed to get the permit before leaving, and they said no ... to just go ahead and leave. But that I was lucky that I wasn't stopped by police.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:38 AM   #30
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This thread has been very helpful. I am sitting on Lago Peten Itza, sipping coffee and trying to determine how to get back to Mexico. The unpaved, gnarly under-construction and deconstructed roads from Huehuetenango to Coban to Flores just sucked, and I really don't want to re-traverse that route.

I am going to try the Frontera Corozal / El naranjo route. I still have Mexico TVIP, so I can just ride in with that. I don't expect much problem by not canceling my Guate TVIP. Famous last words.

I went to Tikal yesterday. Had to buy some gas on the way, so I only had Q80 ($10). I thought, that's got to be fine, Tikal can't charge more than ten bucks to get in. It was only $2.50 or something at Palenque. I rode 40 miles, early in the morning, to get there.

They charge Q25 for locals. however, extranjeros must pay Q150! 600% markup! Eff you guys. I left, and won't go back. I can say I have been to Tikal. Just the gate. And I'll show my pictures of Palenque, remembering being screwed by el gobierno de Guatemala. It should make for a better story, anyway. Why should someone need fifty bucks in their pocket to go see a pile of rocks?
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