The Yamaha TW200 Thread...

[LowOnFuel]

Originally Posted by Paradox Pete

Just received my Dunlop tire and took it by a "good neighbor" who is still into bikes despite being older than I am, and who used to race quite a bit...

"I approve of the well-buttressed knobs. They won't squirm like siped ones or ones that aren't supported as well....Also, they'll provide a solid anchor for your screw-in ice studs from KoldKutter."

Even tho it is DOT approved for the street, this is a pretty gnarly knobby, designed for the rear wheel but being run on the front of my T-Dub as soon as I can get it mounted.

Paradox Pete

Hey Pete, thanks for the info on the rear sprocket, now I have another dumb question about the D606 if you don't mind. How much taller is the Dunlop compared to the stock front tire? If you could measure the stock front tire's diameter while still mounted and then measure the D606's diameter after you have it mounted it would be greatly appreciated.

Steve

[Paradox Pete]

Originally Posted by LowOnFuel

Hey Pete, thanks for the info on the rear sprocket, now I have another dumb question about the D606 if you don't mind. How much taller is the Dunlop compared to the stock front tire? If you could measure the stock front tire's diameter while still mounted and then measure the D606's diameter after you have it mounted it would be greatly appreciated.

Steve

Steve
THe Bike Bandit guy (Dave) told me it woudl be 10mm taller, but I am not sure whether he was talkign merely SIZE (80 stock to 90 on 606....), or if the larger knobs were taken into account.
THere might be clearance problems with stock front fender(???)
Stock set-up is minimal as it is, gumbo mud or even an occassioanl rock got sucked thru mine dragging between fender & tire.

Once I get down to pick up my re-worked T-Dub at Dauntless Motors, I'll measure stock tire vs. 606.

Paradox Pete

[LowOnFuel]

Originally Posted by Paradox Pete

Steve
THe Bike Bandit guy (Dave) told me it woudl be 10mm taller, but I am not sure whether he was talkign merely SIZE (80 stock to 90 on 606....), or if the larger knobs were taken into account.
THere might be clearance problems with stock front fender(???)
Stock set-up is minimal as it is, gumbo mud or even an occassioanl rock got sucked thru mine dragging between fender & tire.

Once I get down to pick up my re-worked T-Dub at Dauntless Motors, I'll measure stock tire vs. 606.

Paradox Pete

Thanks for the reply Pete. I'm trying to decide between the D606 and another rear knobby (DOT approved) for the front of the T-Dub so any info on the 606 will help because I already have the other tire's diameter (run one on the rear of my KTM). I was also thinking that the 120/90-18 D606 might be another way to go depending on the diameter of the 130/90-18.

Thanks again,
Steve

[kodiakfrank]

Originally Posted by Paradox Pete

Frank,
A few tires have an arrow or similar caution that they are "directional" (like chevron tractor tires) and will load up/not "clean out" if turned back wards.
Because your front wheel is NOT "driven", except by the ground pushing against it, you need to figure the road surface is "driving" it instead of a drive chain.
So, if you wind-up with a good gnarly tread tire on the front that was made to be used on the rear wheel, if it says "directional", it may work better/be more tended to "clean out" rather than pack mud into itself, if it is run "backwards" to the indicated direction of rotation.

Most tires are not directional, so I have caused some confusion probably for nothing....(Mea culpa)

Some of the auotmotive winter tires like Frank COlver used on the rear of his three wheeled T-Dub ARE directional, and that mebbe put the thought into my warped mind.

Paradox Pete

I understand the concept of directional tires. I still do not understand why you are mounting a "directional" tire counter to it's designed direction.

The tire is designed to rotate in a given direction to provide clearing of the tread, wether you're dealing with water, mud, or snow. By running the tire in the opposite direction you would be hampering the clearing action of the tread design.

As far as the rear tire being driven by the chain and the front tire being driven by the ground, I really don't see the difference in the dynamic action of tread.

[Streamin' E]

Doesn't make sense to me either. If you consider the application in an automobile, you mount directional tires in the direction of rotation whether it's the driving or driven axle.

[Paradox Pete]

Originally Posted by kodiakfrank

I understand the concept of directional tires. I still do not understand why you are mounting a "directional" tire counter to it's designed direction.

The tire is designed to rotate in a given direction to provide clearing of the tread, wether you're dealing with water, mud, or snow. By running the tire in the opposite direction you would be hampering the clearing action of the tread design.

As far as the rear tire being driven by the chain and the front tire being driven by the ground, I really don't see the difference in the dynamic action of tread.

Frank,
To use a grossly exaggerated example, a tractor with chevron "directional" treads will "clean-out" when driven fwd., even if the tire is slipping againt the surface.
If the tractor slides fwd. with brakes locked the (the ground is workign agaisnt the wheel rather than the wheel being powered agaisnt the ground), mud & turf are jammed into the center of the "V" of the chevrons, same as if you spin the wheels in reverse.

Thankfully the 606 is non-directional so this is a non-issue on the front end.
If I got to a "square" automotive winter directional tread like Frank Colver did on his rear wheel it's simple....I just mount in the direction of rotation the factory says to...

(Did you get the PM about Paradox Guns?)

Paradox Pete (aka Dave3220, Old N' Tyred....)

[Reposado1800]

Here is a link to the old oil cooler thread on TW200 forum.
http://tw200forum.com/forums/3/14696...ost.aspx#14696

[dynamos2000]

I put around 45 miles on the bike runnin around the neighborhood but this morning, it was my first commute to work. 13 miles, some decent inclines, nice pace.

Bike did great - started up immediately after sitting for a week, did 45-55 just fine and she's gonna be a great commuter when I'm not ridin the Fiz.

[Surfn54]

nEEPUK.
Back to the round headlight for a minute.......Coming off my 03 tw Headlight is a yellow, green, and black wire.....Which one is ground, which one is high beam and which is the other? If I just hook up high beam ( power) what do I do with the 3rd wire? Just deaden it I suppose, but I do not know which wire is which?

Your help in advance is greatly appreciated!

Surf

[deadbird]

Black is ground
Yellow is high beam
Green is low beam

[Surfn54]

Thanks Dead Bird........I suppose that either the yellow high beam or the green low beam will work since the light has only ONE beam.
Do you just close off the one wire that you are not using?

Amazingly I was able to get thelight on and re -bolt up my turnsignals and the bracket back into the stock position. I just had to raise my speedo/indicator boxes above the clamps instaed of how they come stock below the clamps.

Surf

[neepuk]

Originally Posted by Surfn54

Thanks Dead Bird........I suppose that either the yellow high beam or the green low beam will work since the light has only ONE beam.
Do you just close off the one wire that you are not using?

Amazingly I was able to get thelight on and re -bolt up my turnsignals and the bracket back into the stock position. I just had to raise my speedo/indicator boxes above the clamps instaed of how they come stock below the clamps.

Surf

pics please.... Yes, either Yellow or Green and just leave the other socket empty.

[tpar1220]

anyone know anything about this tire, duro power grip... atv tire.

i got it mounted up ok, but holy hell... i could not get the bead to seat.





i tried deflating/re-inflating bout ten times... with lots of soapy water, i could not get it to seat. finally gave up and put it back together. it rides like it has a flat spot..




im gonna pull it back off and try again. is that big horn a pain to mount as well?

[Hodakaguy]

Here's a couple pics of our work in progress.







The bike is back on the lift right now, we're adding some extra bracing to the pannier/rack setup. Also we have a custom aluminum fuel tank that will be installed on top of the rack also.

I'll post more pics as we make progress.

You can see more pictures of the mods here: CLICK HERE

Hodakaguy

[freeflow]

Originally Posted by yooper_drz

Yer not too tall....heck, I'm 6'6" and I love ta jump on 'da wifes TW and take it for a run!

TW love.