ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > Canada
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-11-2012, 07:25 AM   #4921
Deadly99
Fast and Far
 
Deadly99's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Merrickville, Canada
Oddometer: 8,861
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterthefarmer View Post
Put it on the center stand (if you have one) put it in high gear 5-6. Keep trying to spin the back wheel forward then back it might take a while, but eventually it should allow the water to pass trough the rings and turn over. If and when it does start it'll probably "steam" for a while. Just let it get good and hot, and it will get rid of the moisture in the oil. It worked for me last year. Good luck.

Peter
Since he has the luxury of bringing stuff....bring an oil filter and some oil and do a fresh change


Keep us posted
__________________
Tales From The Bivouac Rally Print Publications

TCAT (Trans Canada Adventure Trail)


Gravel Travel Canada - Canada's Source for Overland Travel
Deadly99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 09:00 AM   #4922
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterthefarmer View Post
Put it on the center stand (if you have one) put it in high gear 5-6. Keep trying to spin the back wheel forward then back it might take a while, but eventually it should allow the water to pass trough the rings and turn over. If and when it does start it'll probably "steam" for a while. Just let it get good and hot, and it will get rid of the moisture in the oil. It worked for me last year. Good luck.

Peter
I tried letting it roll backwards in 5th and poping the clutch and it would turn a bit then freeze up. So I'd push it up the hill and let it roll back down again and again. No go. Made a loud noise when it would stop
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 09:05 AM   #4923
Emmbeedee
Procrastinators
 
Emmbeedee's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Near Ottawa, ON, Canada
Oddometer: 9,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Alexander View Post
I tried letting it roll backwards in 5th and poping the clutch and it would turn a bit then freeze up. So I'd push it up the hill and let it roll back down again and again. No go. Made a loud noise when it would stop
Not sure the Dakar is the same but my '02 F650GS single had a tool kit in a roll under the seat. Was fairly complete, IIRC. Certainly had a spark plug wrench in it.

I would NOT try to turn the engine over by rolling it down a hill in gear - that's a good way to bend a connecting rod since water does not compress.
__________________
Want to know more about the Garmin Montana? See the Wisdom and FAQ Thread.
Want to know more about the Garmin VIRB? See here.
"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
Emmbeedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 09:07 AM   #4924
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
Hmmm, might be too late for that.

Of course my tool kit was sitting on the garage floor at home
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 09:39 AM   #4925
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
UPDATE

I'm going to get Derek's trailer and my employess have 'volunteered' to take the afternoon off and come for an adventure.

With 4 of us I think we can push the bike to Cali Road.

Funny how last week I posted in Face Plant about the dangers of going off road alone
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 10:03 AM   #4926
Emmbeedee
Procrastinators
 
Emmbeedee's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Near Ottawa, ON, Canada
Oddometer: 9,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Alexander View Post
UPDATE

I'm going to get Derek's trailer and my employess have 'volunteered' to take the afternoon off and come for an adventure.

With 4 of us I think we can push the bike to Cali Road.

Two behind, two pulling, and you on the bike making vroom vroom noises? I guess that's why you're the foreman, eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Alexander View Post
Funny how last week I posted in Face Plant about the dangers of going off road alone
There's nothing quite like teaching by example.
__________________
Want to know more about the Garmin Montana? See the Wisdom and FAQ Thread.
Want to know more about the Garmin VIRB? See here.
"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
Emmbeedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #4927
peterthefarmer
Venison sausage4sale
 
peterthefarmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Location: Cornwall Ontario Canada
Oddometer: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmbeedee View Post
Not sure the Dakar is the same but my '02 F650GS single had a tool kit in a roll under the seat. Was fairly complete, IIRC. Certainly had a spark plug wrench in it.

I would NOT try to turn the engine over by rolling it down a hill in gear - that's a good way to bend a connecting rod since water does not compress.
Physics won't be your friend if you try to force it to turn over. Your connecting rod will give looong before the water will. You have to get the water to pass by the piston rings slowly. Good luck Dan.
__________________
"I'm as stiff as a 'ol horse" said my 92 year old grandpa. I said "Pop you are a 'ol horse"
peterthefarmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 12:37 PM   #4928
Emmbeedee
Procrastinators
 
Emmbeedee's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Near Ottawa, ON, Canada
Oddometer: 9,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterthefarmer View Post
Physics won't be your friend if you try to force it to turn over. Your connecting rod will give looong before the water will. You have to get the water to pass by the piston rings slowly. Good luck Dan.
Better yet, find another way to get it out of there, like making a hole up top where the spark plug goes.

Hey Peter, where did you go this weekend? I don't remember seeing you Friday night in Renfrew.
__________________
Want to know more about the Garmin Montana? See the Wisdom and FAQ Thread.
Want to know more about the Garmin VIRB? See here.
"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
Emmbeedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 07:42 PM   #4929
RobP
Gnarly Adventurer
 
RobP's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Almonte, Ontario
Oddometer: 154
How did it turn out Dan? Hydro locked dirt bikes are easier to sort out!

We've been trying to bash a trail through on the low side of that beaver dam. Makes for some interesting spills.

Rob
__________________
2008 KTM 300 XC - blue plated!
2006 Honda XR650L - FOR SALE!
RobP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2012, 08:15 PM   #4930
rinho
Rinho Féroce
 
rinho's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa area yesterday, south of France Today
Oddometer: 1,051
Does the bike is back home ?
__________________
'06 950 LC8 Adv S
'92 KTM 400 LC4 (pre-serie unit) aka Pénélope
rinho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2012, 05:41 AM   #4931
peterthefarmer
Venison sausage4sale
 
peterthefarmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Location: Cornwall Ontario Canada
Oddometer: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmbeedee View Post
Better yet, find another way to get it out of there, like making a hole up top where the spark plug goes.

Hey Peter, where did you go this weekend? I don't remember seeing you Friday night in Renfrew.
Front cylinders on thoes big Katooms are accesable, if its the back one...make sure you have nothing planned for the rest of the day.

I wasn't sure my back and hips could have handled Saturday's epic voyage, so I just rode on Friday. Felt pretty good though Friday night when I got home. So next time I'll giver' all the way
__________________
"I'm as stiff as a 'ol horse" said my 92 year old grandpa. I said "Pop you are a 'ol horse"
peterthefarmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2012, 06:07 AM   #4932
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
The bike is back home safe and sound.

I borrowed Derek's trailer and drove the Tundra down the hydro line right to the water, just above it there's a flat spot to turn the truck around. I was a bit concerned about getting back up that rocky hill but it was easy. Bottomed the truck a couple of times but otherwise no problemo.

Off roading with air conditioning is nice ... I need a Range Rover
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2012, 06:10 AM   #4933
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobP View Post
How did it turn out Dan? Hydro locked dirt bikes are easier to sort out!

We've been trying to bash a trail through on the low side of that beaver dam. Makes for some interesting spills.

Rob
I noticed the tracks around the outside but since I'd ridden through it a few times before I wasn't worried. My fault for taking my focus off the opposite side and looking down ito the water. As they say, you always end up where you're looking.

Lesson ... hopefully ... learned.

Now to check the bike for any broken con rods.
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #4934
Dan Alexander
Ride Far - Ride Fast
 
Dan Alexander's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Now only Montreal
Oddometer: 6,913
Got the Dakar running today, so all's well. Just need to get a new clutch lever and change the oil.

Took about 4 or 5 turkey basters full of water out of the cylinder by going down through the throttle body. She shot a bunch of grimy water all over the garage wall but I can live with that
__________________
Beemers Past and Present: 74 R90S, 77 R100RS, 85 K100RS, 2x 87 K100RS, 96 R1100GS (getting hacked), 99 R1100S, 2002 R1150GS, 2005 F650 Dakar
Plus the occasional Triumph, BSA, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and KTM but who's counting
Dan Alexander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2012, 07:17 PM   #4935
thumpididump
MacGyver
 
thumpididump's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: Germany
Oddometer: 2,530
good to hear, Dan.
__________________
Keyboard Diarrhea
2014 KTM 690 Enduro R
Poor decisions always lead to great adventures.
thumpididump is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 05:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014