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Old 09-14-2012, 06:01 PM   #5311
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How does a guy who charges by the hour lose money?

He doesn't lose money, he just doesn't make money. So answering the phone, looking up and ordering parts. Dealing with accounting, dealing with customer woes.. he can not charge for.. there are only so many hours in a day and you can't find more hours. if you can't find more hours then he is losing money that he could potentially make.

I have a few friends close up shop because of the lack of hours in the day. There is a fine line between getting second hand mechanics to do the wrenching and closing shop.

owning a business that does specialty work, i.e work on bmw motorcycles, is hard to keep a business a float. especially in the winter..
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:49 PM   #5312
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:22 AM   #5313
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He doesn't lose money, he just doesn't make money. So answering the phone, looking up and ordering parts. Dealing with accounting, dealing with customer woes.. he can not charge for.. there are only so many hours in a day and you can't find more hours. if you can't find more hours then he is losing money that he could potentially make.

I have a few friends close up shop because of the lack of hours in the day. There is a fine line between getting second hand mechanics to do the wrenching and closing shop.

owning a business that does specialty work, i.e work on bmw motorcycles, is hard to keep a business a float. especially in the winter..
I'll agree to a point.

The markup on parts should offset the time it takes to order it, no?

But, if someone doen't make money selling parts then how about not selling them instead of selling them and complaining at the same time. GTC is happy to sell parts and online is always there.

Also like Ted noted, the trouble shooting is charged at shop rates like $90 per hour so how can that be loosing money?

Unless the BMW rate book is way too lenient and the time it takes to do a regular book job is way less than the book rate charged. Then the hourly shop rate really is loosing money. That also implies the book rates are actually ripping the customers off
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:26 AM   #5314
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Now for something completely different.. ...

Can I register and insure a bike from Quebec that is already plated but has a rebuilt title??
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:36 PM   #5315
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Wish I could, but Monday just isn't in the cards.

No one is riding Sunday?


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Old 09-22-2012, 07:03 PM   #5316
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I'll agree to a point. I don't know who we are talking about or I am not sticking up for him, I'm just speaking from my experience in a similar repair shop.

The markup on parts should offset the time it takes to order it, no? No, the man power (time), and the lack of a decent mark up because he is not a dealer, Having to go pick up the parts, affects the bottom line.

But, if someone doesn't make money selling parts then how about not selling them instead of selling them and complaining at the same time. No excuse for mistreatment. GTC is happy to sell parts and online is always there. Power of sales, being at dealer, having a huge clothing dept. is what keeps OGTc parts going.

Also like Ted noted, the trouble shooting is charged at shop rates like $90 per hour so how can that be loosing money? How many hours is reasonable for trouble shooting, How many hours do you have into to trouble shooting? are they chargeable. How long should a shop trouble shoot for? There is a point of reasonable to unreasonable, when you reach that point your losing... It is unreasonable to think for any one person knows about every gismo on every model of every bike.

Unless the BMW rate book is way too lenient and the time it takes to do a regular book job is way less than the book rate charged. Then the hourly shop rate really is loosing money. That also implies the book rates are actually ripping the customers off
The flat rate units are applied to the job. How you apply these units depends if it is reasonable. Trouble shooting usually give .5hr. The time doesn't start until the bike is on the bench. usually does not include testing. but this is usually in a warranty situation. Bike handling, shop prep day in, day out. is hard to charge for to be competitive.
Charging 2 hr flat rate for brakes and doing them in 20 min is where you make most of that time back. At that time, is he ripping people off or is he making a reasonable income?
Maintenance pays and troubleshoot some problems is usually a loss... So if he called you after 5hrs of f-ing around and said you owed him 450. and your no farther a head... Most people would just shit! there has been many times changing out a blown engine for a new engine just to find yourself troubleshooting the new engine because you didn't realize you moved the problem on to the new engine block.

Unless he figures out what gismo is shitting on your bike quickly... Changes the part in a better than reasonable time charges for regular time, orders your part through his parts program (kimpex or whatever) and makes 30% or more mark up plus shipping. Possible but unlikely...
Complaining about what business situation he is in is unreasonable.. and not your issue.

just sayin... when your not a dealer

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Old 09-26-2012, 02:18 PM   #5317
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:24 PM   #5318
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Anybody sell RAM parts in Ottawa? (No, not the Dodge variety) I need another cradle for my Spot II, and GPSCentral was all out when I placed my last order.

BTW, I have a number of RAM cradles for the Oregon series if anyone needs one or two. $5 each.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #5319
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Mike, I just ordered in a batch of Stovey mounts for the 60 series and the Montana. I'll be selling them from the GT website. I've been using one for a couple of years and believe it's the best out there
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:12 PM   #5320
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Mike, I just ordered in a batch of Stovey mounts for the 60 series and the Montana. I'll be selling them from the GT website. I've been using one for a couple of years and believe it's the best out there
If the Montana model doesn't allow use of the Garmin powered cradle, I don't think it'll be very popular, to tell you the truth. It might be bomb proof but if it forces you to use the USB cable for power, it's dead in the water. I've seen pics of it and it does not look like it's got the Garmin mount built in, unfortunately.

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Old 09-30-2012, 06:49 AM   #5321
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:03 PM   #5322
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And now back to regularly scheduled programming.

Stephanie and I were sitting in the back yard this afternoon after she got back from work, enjoying the beautiful weather, and knowing it was going to be crap for the rest of the week. At about 4:00, she suggested we should go for a DR ride, down towards Prescott. So we took the back roads and dirt roads down and ended up at the BK, a place we go to about once every five years. (Too often, we know)



We came back through Limerick and Burritt's Rapids, Weedmark, Paden, and got home just after dark, temperature down to about 12C.



A short but fun ride!
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:49 PM   #5323
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Oh, right. Fixed.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:59 AM   #5325
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