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Old 04-05-2014, 04:02 PM   #7936
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Well fuck.
So punched almost 4k on my KLR last season.
OGTC said oil was fresh when I picked it up. Looked nice and clear in the eyeball, so I didn't think twice.
Today when getting the bike ready to roll, I started it up, ran as far as the corner gas station, dumped in some seafoam and filled with premium (ethanol free).
Ride home, did the ole "loosen the oil filter cover bolts, and fire up bike" trick to pressurize and loosen the cover. No problem there.
Removed the plug and drains the oil.
Popped the filter cover off and removed the filter.
Went to remove the tube from the KLR filter. No tube.
Hmm... Doesn't seem like you could put a tube in there.
Compare to new filter. Completely different.
Filter is stamped HF145.
Look up HiFlo part # for KLR... HF123.

No KLR in the bike list for the HF145.

So I've put nearly 4k on the bike with marginal to no filtering and I can't install a proper filter because the required part (filter bypass valve tube) is missing.
Wondering who to punch...
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Old 04-05-2014, 04:23 PM   #7937
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Did OGTC do the oil change? Contact them.

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Old 04-05-2014, 04:56 PM   #7938
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Went to remove the tube from the KLR filter. No tube.
Hmm... Doesn't seem like you could put a tube in there. So I've put nearly 4k on the bike with marginal to no filtering and I can't install a proper filter because the required part (filter bypass valve tube) is missing.
Hmm, not a good sign.



Not an expensive part to replace but you have to wonder: aside from the wear it might have had on it without filtration, what else has someone butchered?

The assembly's only $12.62 at Cheap Cycle Parts.
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"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:00 PM   #7939
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OGTC doesn't inspire my confidence. Dropped the bike off this am to have the fuel pump warranty recall checked out and to have the service light clear and codes checked.

On a plus note I will be getting a new fuel pump, though I suspect there is nothing wrong with the one in the bike.

On a negative note I was clear about wanting them to confirm the battery and starter were both good and tell me if there was any codes when they hooked it up to the computer. I explained that the bike would turn over slow then fire and I suspected the battery but wanted to confirm the starter before my warranty expired. Went back to pick up the bike and asked the service guy about this and he hadn't confirmed with the tech who was now gone for the day. It's not like it was a complex request and as I'll be paying to have them clear the service light I'd sure like to know if there were any codes.

BTW can anyone confirm if the service light comes on every 10k or annually?
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:02 PM   #7940
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BTW can anyone confirm if the service light comes on every 10k or annually?
What make/model of bike? Our F BMWs only lit up at every 10,000kms.

Although your avatar shows a KTM and I've seen your 690, I can't believe anyone would take a KTM to them.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:04 PM   #7941
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What make/model of bike? Our F BMWs only lit up at every 10,000kms.
09 GSA, I'm thinking every 10k. Had the 30k done last year at 28k and suspect they didn't reset it for 40k so at 30k it came on.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:09 PM   #7942
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09 GSA, I'm thinking every 10k. Had the 30k done last year at 28k and suspect they didn't reset it for 40k so at 30k it came on.
No, the light probably went on because you hit 30,000. It's set to go off at the factory service intervals so you can't clear a code before it hits the marker. Clearing it at 28 won't stop the reminder light showing at 30,000.
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:03 PM   #7943
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No, the light probably went on because you hit 30,000. It's set to go off at the factory service intervals so you can't clear a code before it hits the marker. Clearing it at 28 won't stop the reminder light showing at 30,000.
My 07 gsa has no service warning light.
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:05 PM   #7944
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My 07 gsa has no service warning light.
You're not resetting it with GS911 are you?

Or maybe BMW wasn't using the reminder on the early 1200s. But it was certainly there on our Fs in '08-'09.
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"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.

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Old 04-06-2014, 03:43 AM   #7945
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No, the light probably went on because you hit 30,000. It's set to go off at the factory service intervals so you can't clear a code before it hits the marker. Clearing it at 28 won't stop the reminder light showing at 30,000.
Ah. Makes sense. I think I need a GS-911 in my tool box all the same so I can read and clear codes and clear the service light.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:10 AM   #7946
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Do you guys void warranty if you clear them yourselves? I am going to go through this with the Triumph eventually, but I bought the proper OBDII connector.

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Old 04-06-2014, 06:18 AM   #7947
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Did OGTC do the oil change? Contact them.
That was certainly the implication.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:37 AM   #7948
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It's warming up by the hour...a couple of more hours and it'll be time for my first real ride of the year

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Old 04-06-2014, 06:47 AM   #7949
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Not an expensive part to replace but you have to wonder: aside from the wear it might have had on it without filtration, what else has someone butchered?
Thanks Mike, I was fixated on the wear that may have occurred...I hadn't even gone to the "what else is butchered" ponderance...

On the upside, the bike still doesn't burn a stain of oil, which seems to be an outlier case for a KLR in general. so I'm guessing valve seals, rings, etc, are still in good shape.
bBig bearings are a scary thought. The KLR right side exhaust bearing lubrication is questionable, in good condition. The small brass tube feeding it tends to clog and coke up with heat...

I'm going to go short on this next interval. 500km or less. If it weren't for concern of the wet clutch, I'd throw in some 30w detergent oil, or a few glugs of ATF to wash things out.

I'm putting in 5w40 Rotella T6 Synth. ($23 a gallon from ogdensburg, I don't feel like I'm wasting money).
Hopefully the low cold viscosity will get get through everywhere it needs to be.

I'm going to take the old and new filters into OGTC tomorrow. I'm sure I'm not going to get much out of them, in lieu of "possible" damage, but I'm sure going to try to get the oil filter tub assembly out of them.

I'm mostly just pissed I can't ride, at this point.
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:50 AM   #7950
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The outcome of your visit is, sadly, predictable.

Why, why, why do people bring their bikes there...it very rarely ends up well for the customer.
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