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Old 07-16-2014, 06:52 AM   #2071
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Nice writeup Matt. I'm in need of new rear signals, they look like a good option. Thanks for posting.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:55 AM   #2072
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Ha! Brucifer - I'll check'em when I get home from work today, but I suspect that you are probably right about that. Nice attention to detail....thanks, man.
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:08 AM   #2073
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Vintage vs. Modern Dual Sports When Wet

Hey folks, I am wondering what your thoughts and experiences are when it comes to vintage vs. more modern dual sports getting wet, either from water crossing or being in rain. Specifically I am wondering about the electrics - spark plugs, lights/signals, etc. Are these things prone to stall/stop working when wet way more than on a more modern dual sport? If so, are there things you folks to to keep your old XLs going when the going gets wet?
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:49 PM   #2074
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I ride my old bikes to work and everywhere else every day , pretty much rain or shine. They sit outside in the rain while at work. No issues yet. Just have to make sure the gas cap has good seal , the stator cover is sealed for those with the points, a bit of drying silicone spray to repel any moisture inside and around electricals.

Make sure original airbox is more or less unmodded that can allow water to get sucked in. Keep drain open and functioning.


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Old 07-19-2014, 07:01 AM   #2075
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I posted this in another thread but maybe this one is more appropriate.

I finally got my 1982 XL500R on the road. Got her on craigslist for $400 and put a few hundred into the bike.

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Still need a few cosmetic things like a new seat cover and number plate backing decals.

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Old 07-20-2014, 11:38 PM   #2076
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Hey all,
just had a quick question for you all since this seems to be THE knowledge spot for old XLs. I just picked up a '75 XL350 locally that's running pretty solid and in decent condition. The only problem I noticed was that there was considerable noise in the top end when accelerating. When I was giving it a fresh tune-up at home I noticed a work order placed under the seat from 2012 where the previous owner brought the bike in for (of course) a noisey top end. The mechanic at the time concluded that the rockers and the cam were worn and needed to be replaced, but that no parts existed. The bike only has 6k miles on it. Is it normal for them to have that much wear after only 6k miles? I also noticed some gasoline in the oil when I changed it. Could that have contributed to that? It runs great other than the noise. Is open-heart surgery in order to check it out? Are there any sources for these parts? Thanks much, excellent thread...
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:40 AM   #2077
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I also noticed some gasoline in the oil when I changed it. Could that have contributed to that?
Yes, this definitely could have lead to the quick wear of the head. Gas in the oil can quickly trash an engine since its negates the lubricating properties of the oil. Sounds like you may need to strip down the entire engine to see what exactly was damaged.
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:46 AM   #2078
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Hey all,
just had a quick question for you all since this seems to be THE knowledge spot for old XLs. I just picked up a '75 XL350 locally that's running pretty solid and in decent condition. The only problem I noticed was that there was considerable noise in the top end when accelerating. When I was giving it a fresh tune-up at home I noticed a work order placed under the seat from 2012 where the previous owner brought the bike in for (of course) a noisey top end. The mechanic at the time concluded that the rockers and the cam were worn and needed to be replaced, but that no parts existed. The bike only has 6k miles on it. Is it normal for them to have that much wear after only 6k miles? I also noticed some gasoline in the oil when I changed it. Could that have contributed to that? It runs great other than the noise. Is open-heart surgery in order to check it out? Are there any sources for these parts? Thanks much, excellent thread...
You'll be able to find the parts on ebay, but they won't usually be cheap.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:11 AM   #2079
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Thanks. Are there any compatible parts from other models/years/bikes that you guys know of? Mainly the rocker arms and camshaft? Will the K2 parts work with the K1 XL350's? Thanks again
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:36 PM   #2080
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Thanks. Are there any compatible parts from other models/years/bikes that you guys know of? Mainly the rocker arms and camshaft? Will the K2 parts work with the K1 XL350's? Thanks again
'74s (K0, Silver and Blue) and '75s (K1, Red on Black) are essentially the same bike and share 99%+ of their parts and share probably 85% of their parts with '74-75 (K1-K2) XL250s and a little less with '72-73 (K0) XL250s. In the US there is no such thing as a K2 XL350 as they dropped the "K" designation in '76 and bikes became what ever their model year was. The early bikes, it was a way of designating the bikes since "year" was what ever year it was first registered. In '76 DOT changed how bikes were titled and VINs were attached to model years.

I believe the "K" designations lasted longer in Europe, but not in North America, at least not in any "public" sense. That said, '76-78 bikes have similarities to pre '76 bikes, but move the intake ports to the centerline of the bike as opposed to off to the right side. Early bikes are often referred to as side ports, and 2nd gens as center ports. engines are fundimentally the same but are not really interchangable as a unit, and the top end is the reason. Frames are different, tanks are different, seats, etc. The first and 2nd gen bikes still share probably 65-70% of their parts with each other though.

The parts fiche are available online in many places and are particularly easily organized at cmsnl.com, you can use this resource to compare part numbers between years and then use that to widen your search for parts in the used market if that is what you are looking to do. cmsnl and davidsilverspares.co.uk are parts brokers that have bought out a large portion of the worlds dead stock parts inventories, hondarestoration.com is another but more limited source.

Also note that Honda parts are in the format of XXXXX-XXX-XXX where the first XXXXX is the part number, the second XXX is the model designation the part was originally used on (329 is XL250 and 356 is XL350) and the last XXX is the revision. So any part number for these bikes that is *not* 329 or 356 in the middle was either used prior to these bikes or has been replaced by a later part. Probably 25-30% of the parts for these bikes are common to a lot of bikes and are still orderable from Honda dealers so check your local dealer first. At least another 40% or so are still available new from one of the parts brokers mentioned. A lot of these parts are stupidly expensive though.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:42 PM   #2081
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Wow. Thanks for the history lesson!


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Old 07-22-2014, 06:52 PM   #2082
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Thanks so much SkorpioSkorpio. Awesome wealth of info there! I found some NOS rockers on CMS and, yeah, they're ridiculously expensive, but it's good to know that NOS exists. eBay is turning up a TON of cheaper cams and rockers for old 73-76 XL250's. They look soooo close
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:46 PM   #2083
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Where to find in line filter

Anyone know where to find a good in line fuel filter for the 1976 xl350 that does not restrict flow? I believe it's an 1/8" line and the local cycle shops and auto part stores only carry ones for 1/4".

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Old 07-23-2014, 06:39 PM   #2084
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:18 AM   #2085
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Great pictures Hammed.
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