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Old 09-24-2012, 06:31 AM   #76
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Eek Suggestions for my website XR page

Any ideas for things I should add to my websites page on my XR? More general info on the XR 250L? Farkels? Links? Etc?

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Old 09-29-2012, 05:02 AM   #77
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Wicked Carb problem, XR250L Honda

Ok, I had some carb issues with my 93 XR250L and decided it was time to tear her down.
Just some history, I'm used to tearing down 1973/75 Suzuki Mikuni carbs, and once I saw how difficult it was going to be with the 250L, I had second thoughts.
Out comes the bottle of SEA FOAM, 1/2 of the bottle with a full tank of gas, out for a 30 mile ride, and that bike has never, ever ran better!!
And it is still running GREAT!

So, before you tear your carb down, and if your bike is running, but not quite so good, try a 1/2 can of Sea Foam. IT WORKS!!

Starting issues with my bike, never starts on the first kick, but always by the third / fourth kick. It is temperature dependent, and you do have to find that "Sweet Spot" with the choke cable position.

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Old 09-29-2012, 09:45 AM   #78
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So, before you tear your carb down, and if your bike is running, but not quite so good, try a 1/2 can of Sea Foam. IT WORKS!!
I agree completely about seafoam (though I know some people don't believe in it at all), I have used it periodically in my gas and added to crank case oil too, which does seem to pull out moisture and lift deposits of gunk in all those nooks and crannies you want oil getting to but don't need to do a rebuild for.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:20 PM   #79
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It's raining a bit to much to ride, so I figured I might as well photograph something to do with my XR. So here's a photo of my toolkit which is basically a stock XR toolkit plus a wratchet, tire irons, clamps, a couple plugs, master links and oh yea my Bersa .380

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Old 10-22-2012, 12:09 PM   #80
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John, I'm enjoying your posts and videos.

I got a '91 a while back. Put it on a diet first thing like I do with most bikes: Removed the rear subframe, removed that whole massive battery module and put in a capacitor, ground off some lugs, that sort of thing. For the capacitor I needed to switch out the lights when starting so I bought a DPDT switch from Radio Shack and put it in circuit with the two fuses that have a load that I don't need when starting (can't remember which at the moment but it should be obvious). I mounted the capacitor under the seat somewhere and the switch on the frame just in front of the gas tank accessible from above. I'm an old fart in my 60's but still don't have much trouble starting the bike, 3 or 4 kicks from cold with the choke full on and the throttle closed. I don't run with the switch off long because with it off all the current that would normally go to the headlights has to go through the shunt regulator which is asking a bit much of it. I really like not having a battery in my bike. That's the way I ran my old Norton N15 years ago.

I always put a little StaBil in the tank with each fill so I don't have to worry about the carb gumming up. For winter I drain the carb and disconnect the gas line from the petcock so if the latter has a slow leak I don't end up with a carb full of gum. It's so easy to do such things on a thumper!

I ride mostly on street, so I got some Pirelli MT90's which seem to work well enough (I have not enough experience to give a more refined review of them). I like to be able to putt around on gravel roads and trails but I don't go fast in the dirt, so this bike is fine for my purposes. My one irritation is the seat height. I wish it was more like the XT225 in that respect. At the speeds I go in the dirt, I don't need that much suspension travel. I also don't like the excessive dive while braking hard on the street.

I need a new choke cable because I have to hold the choke out when starting (the plastic friction block on cable top is broken). Even better would be to eliminate the cable and just choke it somehow at the carb if I could figure out some way to do that.

Also my muffler is rotting out. I noticed your bike is very quiet John, in that video, is that a stock system? I wonder how quiet the XR250R header/CRF250X muffler combo is (mentioned earlier in this thread). I really like quiet, the quieter the better, and don't mind being down on power to get it.

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Old 10-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #81
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Before I can talk about anything now that you have said what you've said.

Please tell me you did NOT give up that Norton...

I hope you don't have one of those Billy Joel stories like when he dumped Christie Brinkley... Christie Brinkley. Most guys like me can only dream about Nortons and Brinkley.

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Old 10-23-2012, 08:17 AM   #82
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Actually it was a sad story about that. I was young and foolish back then... I took my bike into a shop to have some minor work done on it. When I came back he talked me into modifying the bike to get better performance. Like an idiot I agreed even though there was nothing wrong with the performance! Probably the gruntiest bike ever made...

When I finally got the bike out of the shop I had a hard time kicking it over. Turns out he had put bigger valves in it along with boring it out and putting bigger, high compression pistons in it. I finally got it going, but the next time I changed the oil, a pint of water came out of the oil tank before the oil came out. I pulled the head and cylinder off and found out why: with the bigger cylinders, the head gasket was not up to its job and there was a partial leak between the cylinder and the pushrod tunnel, not enough to stop combustion however. This allowed combustion products into the crankcase, which is where the water came from. Also he put such large valves in that they ran into each other. The reason I finally got the engine running by kicking it over was from bending the cheesy light-weight pushrods he put in enough that the valves no longer hit each other (very much). Anyway when I checked the rod bearings, they were trashed also, from using water as an engine lubricant. This "mechanic" had butchered my bike. That was a sad day for me. I sold it as a basket case.

I had that bike for 3 years (paid $1285 for it new in 1969). I later got a Norton Commando I kept for 25 years, but I never liked it quite as much as the N15, even though the N15 was a bit more primitive and had worse brakes (single leading shoes!). Handled better than the Commando though.

Here is a nice article about these bikes:
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/match03082900.html
Your picture shows an earlier model. Mine looked more like this, or the one in the article:

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Old 10-23-2012, 04:05 PM   #83
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God I love the look of that bike!!! And am so sad to hear of how it got butchered like that, really a shame.

Anyway, now that I've got that off my chest, by the way yes my XR is quiet and that's a stock exhaust. I think that's the reason it is quiet, I'm not a fan of slip-ons (like cheap DG's) though I see so many old XR's with them. Though I actually like DG pipes for two strokes like the '82 PE 175 I rebuilt a couple years ago, sold it, but always looking for a good old rice burner two smoke!

I do understand about how high up the XR sits, it's tall for a 250, though I actually like it (except on highways that cut through large hay fields and there's a lot of wind buffeting at from the sides) since I do take it off road.

Since you put your XR on a diet, do you know it's weight and how does it handle being lighter? I'm also curious about any cures; theory or factual for the braking dive you might have heard over time. This model XR is know for that, on the street its most annoying though on the trails I find it actually keeps me upright in tight twisty trails.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:03 AM   #84
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No, I don't know the weight. It's just a thing for me, stripping off extraneous stuff. It's not like I'd actually notice the difference riding it!

Nice looking PE. I thought dirt bikes were supposed to be covered in mud!

My current street bike is a '99 Triumph Adventurer. I like it pretty much but at my age it is a bit heavy to be pushing it around in the garage and so forth. Might have to downsize some day.

Here are a couple of links you might want to put on your web page:
http://www.rickramsey.net/XR250L.htm
http://justxr.com/jh_info/xr250_tips.html

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Old 10-29-2012, 05:42 PM   #85
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Nice looking PE. I thought dirt bikes were supposed to be covered in mud!
That bikes been dirtier than a bus load of politicians at a whore house! I figure every 20 years or so making it look pretty is the right thing to do.

I'm familiar with the Ramsey site, sort of a classic for the XR crowd, but I was not familiar with the XR250 Setup Tip site



- I don't suppose that's "the" Jeff Dunham, how cool would that be!


Either way, definitely worth linking on my page, thanks!
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:46 PM   #86
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Hello,

Im new to the forums, there is some pretty informational stuff in here.

Im new to the two wheel scene too. I have a 91 XR L and am looking to do pretty much what that Rick Ramsey guy did.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:38 PM   #87
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Im new to the two wheel scene too. I have a 91 XR L and am looking to do pretty much what that Rick Ramsey guy did.
Any reason in particular you're going to make those mods? My 250L is basically stock except for tires and farkle, in my opinion it handles just fine. But to each his own, what are you looking to do with your bike? Trail, road, both etc?
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:38 PM   #88
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Laugh

Well I just took the engine out and sent it in to a shop to get a smokey engine fixed. I might put some performance parts in the engine while its all taken apart.

I'm really not sure why I like this bike so much but I'm attached.

I would like to do a lot of riding both on the street and in the mud. So I figured that this bike will serve me well if I return the favor and give her some TLC.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:02 PM   #89
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I'm really not sure why I like this bike so much but I'm attached.
Aren't we all?!

When you get the bike the way you like it, and are getting ready for the highway and maybe hitting the slop out on the trails I can suggest the Wolfman bags if you're thinking of doing any ADV rides.

I added a Wolfman Beta Plus (not the mini) bag and I have to say I am loving it! I got the Plus because the rack I made for the back end is 9 1/2" wide and the mini would have bunched up. The plus sits nice and tight and so far is super stable on the trails. The pulls are a bit flappy on highway even when I have them tied down, but what the heck! I strongly recommend the Wolfman enduro tank bag and the beta plus for all the XR 250L since for the price they're hard to beat IMHO.



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Old 11-04-2012, 04:06 PM   #90
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John,
That is a sharp looking bike. I'm quite impressed, that actually looks like a nice bike to hit a long ride on.

Which brings me to my up coming dream. Now granted its a dream and I know there are a lot holes in it, but here it goes...

I would like to set up my XRL similar to that and get down to Brazil for the upcoming 2014 World Cup.

Im going to need A LOT of work, but in due time I have 3 years to get my baby in order.
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