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Old 05-19-2013, 03:49 AM   #1621
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Here's a left-sided view of the bike, note the rear shock:
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:53 AM   #1622
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Oh & btw, that's a pair of XR400R forks too.
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:22 AM   #1623
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Nice to know the XR400 shock will fit the earlier XR250's
Does tha XR400 shock have any other adjustments that the early XR250 does not have?

Im guessing the XR400 spring rate would be much firmer too, Is it too firm?


Do the XR400 forks slide straight into the XR250 triple clamps / trees?
Are they the same size tubes?
Looks like the XR400 forks are a bit longer, Do the XR400 forks feel any better?
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:46 AM   #1624
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The XR400R had 43mm Showa forks. The old 250s had 41mm forks. So I had the whole 400 front end installed, triple clamps, caliper, hub & all. It was a straight fit, but I had to weld a pair of steering stops on the frame (note the little protrusion on the frame near the oil cooler line, just fwd of the tank). I used the oem springs together with heavier oil. Not as super-stiff as the new generation bikes but better. Oh, & with the more current XR400R forks & piggyback shock, rebuilding & tuning them would be much easier as there are tons of aftermarket spares out there. Also, since the shock was a piggyback type, there's now a space around the carb area from the left, where the old remote reservoir used to sit, & I get better access to the carb. But I had to remove the left sideboard to adjust the compression, no biggie.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:57 AM   #1625
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Trail Tech Vapor



Any of you boys install a Trail Tech Vapor? I'm wondering what you did for the engine temp. The directions say to install it on the spark plug. It is so tight in there I could never get the spark plug to thread and after 30 minutes of trying, I gave up.

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Old 05-22-2013, 06:53 AM   #1626
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You can put the temp sensor under one of the oil line banjo bolts, in place of the existing copper washer. That will give you an approximation of the oil temp.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:20 AM   #1627
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You can put the temp sensor under one of the oil line banjo bolts, in place of the existing copper washer. That will give you an approximation of the oil temp.
Are you suggesting one of the #18 washers from this diagram?

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:29 AM   #1628
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Are you suggesting one of the #18 washers from this diagram?
Yes. Note that I haven't done it myself, so I can't make any guarantees. When I had my XR250, that's what I planned to do after reading about TrailTech Vapor installations on ThumperTalk.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:29 AM   #1629
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Any of you boys install a Trail Tech Vapor? I'm wondering what you did for the engine temp. The directions say to install it on the spark plug. It is so tight in there I could never get the spark plug to thread and after 30 minutes of trying, I gave up.



does your plug have a washer built in? can you remove that to allow more of the threads to be exposed? May need to carefully cut it off with a dremel.

see "gasket" on the picture -

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does your plug have a washer built in? can you remove that to allow more of the threads to be exposed? May need to carefully cut it off with a dremel.

see "gasket" on the picture -

Yes, I popped that off per instructions. There is something with right angle washer/wire that doesn't allow it to drop in and then use the Honda spark plug tool to tighten it down. Maybe somebody out there is better than me but I gave it a valiant attempt.
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Yes. Note that I haven't done it myself, so I can't make any guarantees. When I had my XR250, that's what I planned to do after reading about TrailTech Vapor installations on ThumperTalk.
That is an option I looked at. However, out-of-the-box, the wire is about 14 inches short to making the connection. Before I cut it open, I wanted to hear others opinions. #18 washer is 7 mm and the spark plug is probably between 10 and 12 mm. So there is a leak concern which is also mentioned in the install instructions.

I was looking at the Trail Tech site again and they offer this alternative. It took me a moment to realize that this the underside of the bike's oil drain plug. Yeah, I don't see an issue with that!!

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:29 PM   #1632
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I'd use a 90 deg fitting to negate the strain on that bent tubing. Swagelok
should have what you need.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:30 PM   #1633
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Duhhh, I just realized that's wire. Delete my last.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:06 PM   #1634
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Any of you boys install a Trail Tech Vapor? I'm wondering what you did for the engine temp. The directions say to install it on the spark plug. It is so tight in there I could never get the spark plug to thread and after 30 minutes of trying, I gave up.

Head bolt ?
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:56 AM   #1635
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Head bolt ?
Yeah, I was wondering if I could use bolt #11 in the pick to attach it to. As a noob, I don't know what that bolt holds and if I should be concerned about anything if I pull it out and add the sensor. Thoughts?



If I use a bolt off the cylinder head, what bolt would you guys recommend? Maybe one of the ones that goes to the exhaust? #19?

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