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Old 08-25-2009, 08:27 AM   #436
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I may keep her and upgrade the suspension.
Dooooo Eeeeeet! Best money you can possibly put into it, and I promise it will absolutely transform the bike as it sits now (undersprung/damped new, far worse with age). One of those things you can't really believe until feeling the difference - but man what a difference! I 'worked' a friends '95 with an Ohlins + RaceTech fork internals (after a couple of years of pestering him... ) and he still was absolutely shocked that what I was telling him was so true.

PS: Coincidently, soon I'll be ordering a plug set to do the late-model Yamaha rectifier conversion on my VFR, and probably throw on a fuseblock while I'm at it - from your fine site which I found via VFRD!
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:15 PM   #437
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I just sold my 99 last year and got a 01 FZ1.

Not sure if I made the right decision though.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:25 PM   #438
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I commute to work daily on my 98 with riding boots on and I only notice the heat if I'm running errands close to home in running shoes. If you're wearing pants and proper footwear, there are no heat issues.

In response to the original question of the thread, Bike magazine seems to think the best year of new motorcycles since they have been in business was 1998 with the intro of the Yamaha R1 and the 5th gen VFR800. Its in the Feb/March/April '09 issue IIRC.
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:02 PM   #439
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Had a 98 and loved it. Just bought my wife an 02 w/ABS and am pleasantly surprised. If anybody has a set of bar risers or factory bags and mounts. I'm interested. PM me.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:21 PM   #440
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I never noticed any heat issues on any of my vfr's (83, 85, 86, 98, 03). My fjr gets hot on hot days.
My '90 threw quite a bit of heat off the clutch area, and my '93 is even more noticeable (even though it should be the same).
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Old 08-29-2009, 10:19 PM   #441
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I made the mistake of buying a 98 VFR as the second bike I've ever ridden.

I don't know if I can ever give up that sweet sounding V4, and the comfy ergos. For a big dolt like me, I can sit almost straight up like a standard for long days, or I can slide back in the saddle and hunch down sportbike style.

I don't know if I'll ever get rid of it, or replace it.

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Old 08-30-2009, 05:46 PM   #442
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Bump, 'cause this thread needs to be above all those H-D ones.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:23 PM   #443
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Anyone else with pics of their VFR??
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Old 08-31-2009, 03:09 PM   #444
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I appreciate it HPS. I dont have to worry about storing it, I do get to ride it once in a while, JUST enough so I dont have to do all the prep to actually store the bike. I bought it last Nov, and it will be paid for in about two months, which is another con for selling. I just HATE for a gorgous bike to be sitting and not on the road where it belongs.
Good deal then. I hate for mine to sit around like it does too (didn't touch it in the month of July, and not much this month either, for example), but that's where my life is at these days. It's frustrating, but I ride when I can and I look forward to getting things straightened out enough that my wife and I can spend more time on two wheels.

The ultimate goal: get her a bike of her own so we can go together on one bike, or together on two.
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Old 08-31-2009, 03:25 PM   #445
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I don't have a better picture of it in the wild, but here's my new to me '95!

Unfortunately, it kinda handles...well...horribly right now. Extremely hard to lean, requiring massive pressure on the bars, and while leaned over it feels very unstable. It weaves and wobbles, then if you hit undulations or bumps, it feels really scary. Very difficult to ride through the twisties right now. It requires ridiculous pressure to keep it leaned, and even more to lean it further, and we're not talking crazy angles here.

The PO put a 180 rear tire on it, and after some research, I've found the 95 is supposed to have a 170 tire stock. The VFR forums are all saying it's most likely the tire causing the problems. Any agreement here? The 180 is pretty worn, past the wear bars but not really flat spotted. That said I've never ridden anything with a rear tire bigger than a 130...

I just find it difficult to beleive that a 10mm difference in rear tire size can make such a huge difference. Guess I'll find out.

I'm REALLY hoping the tire fixes the problem since the bike is otherwise completely stock and in fine shape. It's a shame for a bike that looks like this one to ride so horrible in the curves.


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Old 08-31-2009, 05:08 PM   #446
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I don't have a better picture of it in the wild, but here's my new to me '95!

Unfortunately, it kinda handles...well...horribly right now. Extremely hard to lean, requiring massive pressure on the bars, and while leaned over it feels very unstable. It weaves and wobbles, then if you hit undulations or bumps, it feels really scary. Very difficult to ride through the twisties right now. It requires ridiculous pressure to keep it leaned, and even more to lean it further, and we're not talking crazy angles here.

The PO put a 180 rear tire on it, and after some research, I've found the 95 is supposed to have a 170 tire stock. The VFR forums are all saying it's most likely the tire causing the problems. Any agreement here? The 180 is pretty worn, past the wear bars but not really flat spotted. That said I've never ridden anything with a rear tire bigger than a 130...

I just find it difficult to beleive that a 10mm difference in rear tire size can make such a huge difference. Guess I'll find out.

I'm REALLY hoping the tire fixes the problem since the bike is otherwise completely stock and in fine shape. It's a shame for a bike that looks like this one to ride so horrible in the curves.


My 93 had a 180 on it when I bought it. I switched to a 170, and saw am immediate improvement. However the change was not earth shattering. I saw about a 2 second improvement in lap times at VIR. I would be looking at the suspension settings, preload, damping ( not sure if its adjustable) and height of forks in triple clamps. If the tire is worn to a square profile, it could casue some of this as well.
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:53 PM   #447
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got a '98

I've had my Viffer for a while now. It's gone full circle, kind of. Fitted it out for touring with Givi hard bags, Y2k mirrors, and touring shield, Staintune exhaust, Heli bars, etc.



But now I have an '05 FJR and an '01 Trophy for the long range stuff, so the bags are off and I only use it for day rides. Put some sport bike tires on it and I'm loving it all the more. It's a great bike. I'll never sell it unless I have to.
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:08 PM   #448
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My 93 had a 180 on it when I bought it. I switched to a 170, and saw am immediate improvement. However the change was not earth shattering. I saw about a 2 second improvement in lap times at VIR. I would be looking at the suspension settings, preload, damping ( not sure if its adjustable) and height of forks in triple clamps. If the tire is worn to a square profile, it could casue some of this as well.
Bike suspension is a complete mystery to me other than that I know it needs to keep the tires on the ground at all times. What in the suspension would cause stiff turning? The preload and rebound are adjustable on the rear and the preload is adjustable on the front. I went ahead and set everything to stock settings as per the owner's manual last night and this morning's ride was no better.
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:55 PM   #449
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I don't have a better picture of it in the wild, but here's my new to me '95!

Unfortunately, it kinda handles...well...horribly right now. Extremely hard to lean, requiring massive pressure on the bars, and while leaned over it feels very unstable. It weaves and wobbles, then if you hit undulations or bumps, it feels really scary. Very difficult to ride through the twisties right now. It requires ridiculous pressure to keep it leaned, and even more to lean it further, and we're not talking crazy angles here.

The PO put a 180 rear tire on it, and after some research, I've found the 95 is supposed to have a 170 tire stock. The VFR forums are all saying it's most likely the tire causing the problems. Any agreement here? The 180 is pretty worn, past the wear bars but not really flat spotted. That said I've never ridden anything with a rear tire bigger than a 130...

I just find it difficult to beleive that a 10mm difference in rear tire size can make such a huge difference. Guess I'll find out.

I'm REALLY hoping the tire fixes the problem since the bike is otherwise completely stock and in fine shape. It's a shame for a bike that looks like this one to ride so horrible in the curves.


Big 180 on that rim and you will turn slow. Go back to a 170 the original 4th gen spec. Guys put 190s on the 5th gens and guess what happens -turns for crap.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:02 PM   #450
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I don't have a better picture of it in the wild, but here's my new to me '95!

Unfortunately, it kinda handles...well...horribly right now. Extremely hard to lean, requiring massive pressure on the bars, and while leaned over it feels very unstable. It weaves and wobbles, then if you hit undulations or bumps, it feels really scary. Very difficult to ride through the twisties right now. It requires ridiculous pressure to keep it leaned, and even more to lean it further, and we're not talking crazy angles here.


I'm REALLY hoping the tire fixes the problem since the bike is otherwise completely stock and in fine shape. It's a shame for a bike that looks like this one to ride so horrible in the curves.
Here's my opinion; it's late and I've been up for a while, so it's probably not my best, but here goes:

1. Change the tire.
2. For weaving and wobbling through undulations, that's probably a sacked-out rear shock and front forks with old fluid and soft springs.
3. If the steering effort is high, and particularly if there's a 'notch' at center, your steering-head bearings are suspect.

I'd leave the rear alone for right now: it's expensive and fairly time-consuming to swap the shock out, and you can't use the bike unless you buy a new one (or find an OEM Honda one to have rebuilt for you) before removing the original. You will want to have this done eventually, however.

For the front, replace your fork oil, ASAP. You'll find all sorts of recommendations for what to use online, and I'm no expert so I'll just say that at 5' 9" and ~180lb, 10.5(ish)w fork oil seems to work okay for me. Changing fork oil is cheap and easy to do, and it will help you figure out whether there's more going on than just a wide rear tire, in about 2 hours worth of work.

If you can, find some new springs. I managed to get some OEM VFR800 springs off of a guy for free (he had just put Racetech springs into his) and the stiffer springs helped things out on my bike.

SH bearings can be hard to diagnose. Frankly, your bike has low-enough miles that I'd be tempted to open up the bearings, re-grease them, and torque it down to spec. Everyone agrees that Honda doesn't put very much lube on them at the factory, and 14 year-old grease probably needs replacing anyway. If you detect notchiness or get a wobble at around 30-35mph, then it's probably time to replace the bearings (easy and cheap if you've ever done a bicycle's steering-head, it's pretty familiar). I'd worry about that if you get there, and not before.

fwiw (and there's lots of good info over at VFRD; check it out)
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