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Old 02-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #61
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Jackd, due to inflation, it's now the $3000 o-ring

Infra, how did your old o-ring from the last filter change look like? It should be slightly flattened. Too flat means you need to remove the shim. Too round and you need to get rid of the paper gasket and possibly add shims.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:30 PM   #62
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Wow.

I wouldn't doubt that it would now cost all that now. It doesn't take long to ruin the engine - you have a high flow oil pump with a minimal oil capacity in the sump - which leads to most of your oil going overboard in minutes.

On the other hand, the pressure oil going past the cannister to return in the sump is more insidious - you don't know that you have oil supply problems until you see that pretty red oil pressurre light coming on. By then it's game over.

I must admit I was kind of taken aback by the speed with which the old hands of this Forum sprung to action to clarify the 'oil filter change' procedure. By the time I had read the original posting and finished my reply there were several replies which had not been there previous. This must be slightly important to get that response.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:37 PM   #63
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I would remove the paper gasket. Looking at your picture, the white o-ring does not look compressed enough.



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Old 02-09-2009, 04:47 PM   #64
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That Scares Me.

All that sealant around that opening and a few specks toward the centre just scares the hell out of me. I remember hearing about engine failures in aircraft which were caused by sealant blocking lubricating passages at critical bearing areas. We actually had airworthiness directives that prohibited the use of certain ones as a result of this. I think that trouble is just around the corner if this crap migrates downstream into the above illustrated engine - use it sparingly or not at all. I don't use it in this location and I only put on a skim on the bases when I replace my cylinders.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:25 PM   #65
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no need to be that dramatic,i used such a small amount of fujibond on there,there is no chance of problems with such a small amount.i have been building subaru engines with it for a living for years.it is used almost exclusively instead of gaskets on their motors...
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:42 PM   #66
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:43 PM   #67
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One other thing about the oil filter business that is worth keeping in mind...

There are some airheads that have had failures attributable to poor oil circulation due to improper filter installation - this from postings by various gurus such as Oak, Tom Cutter, Ted Porter, SnowBum, Anton, etc.

There are many more airheads on the road that haven't failed.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:55 PM   #68
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so true,mr.woo!
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:02 PM   #69
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On the other hand, the pressure oil going past the cannister to return in the sump is more insidious - you don't know that you have oil supply problems until you see that pretty red oil pressurre light coming on. By then it's game over.
That's why I have this on my handlebar



My oil sender is also rated at twice the OE sender's. Thus, the idiot light gives me an earlier warning.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:11 PM   #70
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Where Is It?

Opposedcyljunkie -weren't you going to throw a GPS on your handlebars as well? How did that go?
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:41 PM   #71
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Opposedcyljunkie -weren't you going to throw a GPS on your handlebars as well? How did that go?




He couldn't find any vacant space.......................















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Old 02-09-2009, 07:48 PM   #72
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+1 on that Gezer!

It's on the crossbar between the 2 gauges. Haven't taken a photo yet but if you need one, I'll oblige.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:51 PM   #73
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Bluhduh I Was Hoping....

I was hoping that he would post a recent pic of his bars - I'm looking for ideas. I just scored a stock BMW clock for my GS but it won't fit on mine because I put bar risers on last season and now the stock hardware doesn't work. Darn.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:04 PM   #74
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Will take a photo later...

My GPS mount is a TT so it mounts on the crossbar. It was much more difficult to find a spot for a Ram mount.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:24 PM   #75
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Wow

Didn't expect so much input on the oil filter issue. I'll search around the airheads forum as well.

Will take it apart if I need to. I have not put the oil back in the engine yet due to my bad ankle. It's a 5 minute job to pull the cover off and measure the depth.

Wow. This is one area where the oilheads rock. A simple screw in canister that takes 2 minutes to do.

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