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Old 12-10-2012, 12:04 PM   #2881
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HAHA. I tried again but the map link didn't go to where I was.

With the air photo turned off it is easy to find where a road crosses the BC Alberta border south east of Elkford. Looks pretty cool but may be a goat trail.
One way to find out for sure. I have seen that on the satellite pictures, and I think Shibby knows that trail. I still have to use Windows XP at work or I'd do a screen snip of the map shot.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:22 PM   #2882
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Pretty sure that is north fork pass. Picture in my avatar was taken about a hundred yards from bc border with gould dome in the background.
There are four passes the you can cross into bc between the southern end of K country and highway three. Philips pass is the easest, deadmans a little easier , race horse pass can be done in any dual sport with good riding skills and north fork being the hardest. Am sure others can tell you about skill level required for north fork.
Just go to Elkfordtrails.com and down load pdf file on quad trails. This is a better map for route planning.most quad trails on the map can be accessed with a small dualsport with good trail riding skills.
Can also look a couple pages back in this thread for info.


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Old 12-10-2012, 02:43 PM   #2883
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Not sure which Philips pass is, but I the other ones listed are correct and the grading appropriate.

North Fork isn't all that difficult with exception of some rock ledges (momentum and you're up) and then the downhill baby heads for about a km or two. It's also becoming overgrown.

Great trails to explore. Great scenery, fun riding, etc. Easy to get to when you stage around highway 40 and bomb down the gravel road riding quad trails in the ditches, etc.

Once at Elkford stop at the hotel for food. Deliclius little restaurant there for a good price.

Makes for a good day's ride doing that loop.


Please note, the NORTH one (Fording Pass) is illegal to ride and ONLY OPEN TO SNOWMOBILES. I may or may not have rode it, and may or may not have gotten a written notice. I may have also proved Fish And Wildlife wrong with no signage and therefore no tickets / jail time. =)

Just goes to show you can't always follow google earth...

Also keep in mind you should have your directions straight before crossing North Fork. It can be confusing coming down the other side and just getting to Elkford. GPS tracks are a very good idea on multiple GPS's (they get erased, lost, broken, etc)


Maybe next year try another SEBC dual sport multi-day trip again if there is interest. My buddy and I usually saddle up and do three full days of riding at about 800-1000 KM offroad. It's usually morning to dark riding, but that can be adjusted.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:44 PM   #2884
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http://www.elkfordtrails.com/files/m...ordATV2010.pdf

Thanks for the link morerpmfred. I notice that your degree of difficulty of the mountain passes get easier the further south they are. A fun ride may be doing the passes in order of difficulty, Gas up then Phillipps pass into BC, Deadman's pass back into AB. If that isn't too scary then try Racehorse pass into BC, then North fork back to AB. Gas may be an issue especially because a pass may be too scary and make it necessary to turn back around.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:48 PM   #2885
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Not sure which Philips pass is, but I the other ones listed are correct and the grading appropriate.

North Fork isn't all that difficult with exception of some rock ledges (momentum and you're up) and then the downhill baby heads for about a km or two. It's also becoming overgrown.

Great trails to explore. Great scenery, fun riding, etc. Easy to get to when you stage around highway 40 and bomb down the gravel road riding quad trails in the ditches, etc.

Once at Elkford stop at the hotel for food. Deliclius little restaurant there for a good price.

Makes for a good day's ride doing that loop.


Please note, the NORTH one (Fording Pass) is illegal to ride and ONLY OPEN TO SNOWMOBILES. I may or may not have rode it, and may or may not have gotten a written notice. I may have also proved Fish And Wildlife wrong with no signage and therefore no tickets / jail time. =)

Just goes to show you can't always follow google earth...

Also keep in mind you should have your directions straight before crossing North Fork. It can be confusing coming down the other side and just getting to Elkford. GPS tracks are a very good idea on multiple GPS's (they get erased, lost, broken, etc)


Maybe next year try another SEBC dual sport multi-day trip again if there is interest. My buddy and I usually saddle up and do three full days of riding at about 800-1000 KM offroad. It's usually morning to dark riding, but that can be adjusted.
I did notice the fording pass and thought it looked like fun. Better to find out here about trails that are off limits.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:19 PM   #2886
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X2 on what Shibby says about North fork. There has been some controvercy over legal access on the internet the past few years. But this sums it up.
Hope you can read rhe sign.


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Old 12-10-2012, 07:45 PM   #2887
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My first time across North Fork was back in 2005. No GPS to follow, just a map and some loose directions from the locals. Ended up getting an escort out of the active open-pit mine by Elkford by the nice security folks. Very easy to get screwed around on the west side of the divide.

Have since been across all the passes there multiple times. All fun rides, but doing North Fork from east-to-west is by far my favourite. There is a short window to do them in... usually remain snow covered into early July.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:20 PM   #2888
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My first time across North Fork was back in 2005. No GPS to follow, just a map and some loose directions from the locals. Ended up getting an escort out of the active open-pit mine by Elkford by the nice security folks. Very easy to get screwed around on the west side of the divide.

Have since been across all the passes there multiple times. All fun rides, but doing North Fork from east-to-west is by far my favourite. There is a short window to do them in... usually remain snow covered into early July.
The North Fork is very hard to find from the west side, we spent 5 hours trying to find it this past summer and ended up in the mine as well, we were lucky enough to avoid escort out. We used the Quad Squad map and the BC back road mapbook and it was still very unclear. We must of went down 5 or 6 logging roads thinking that might be it but to lead to a dead end. So the last one we went down looked like it was going nowhere into a bowl and it was getting late and we had to get back to Cochrane. So we turned around and went around the highway and up the trunk road. I got home and looked on google maps and sure as shit we were on the right one and it would of went up and over it we had only gone another couple miles. Oh well now I know where it is.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:32 PM   #2889
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Summer of 94 all the trails/roads washed out extreme. All the bypasses on the trail where made then. The trail on the satilitte images is not the trail. Could not connect up to graves or alexander connector or the other trail as there was a boulder field where the trails was. two hundred yards of boulders 6 feet in diameter or larger. Early evening so do do the trail back would have been like back after midnight So the ten of us just pulled up on to the road and parked as the haul trucks wissed by, ten minutes later mine safety showed. He says Where did you guys come from? Up there. He says trail is all washed out. We said yup. Got the lecture.
We drove/ rode back to the pass on pavement with half us only having trail plates including a quad. Oh well lucky for us no tickets on the pavement.


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Old 12-10-2012, 09:00 PM   #2890
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If in the area and you have time, the fire lookout north of Elkford is worth the trip if visibility is good. Great view and a place to relax for awhile and take it all in.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #2891
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If in the area and you have time, the fire lookout north of Elkford is worth the trip if visibility is good. Great view and a place to relax for awhile and take it all in.
+1 - we had an awesome weekend riding around Elkford a couple of years back. If it's the one I was at, it is called Greenhill Lookout, Shibby is right about the views up top - beautiful. The powerline running north from Elkford is a nice easy rip too.

A couple of photos from the lookout here (last 2 pics)
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:53 AM   #2892
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Those pictures look like fun! Has me missing riding already.

That is indeed the fire lookout.

The road going north of Elkford is also nice, big bike friendly road too.

The dark soil hill climb picture looks like the entry into Race Horse pass? That's the more technical peice of trail, as well as the one rocky hill climb near the top. Easy going after that. People who fear the diffuculty might want to go from east to west.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:51 AM   #2893
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The dark soil hill climb picture looks like the entry into Race Horse pass? That's the more technical peice of trail, as well as the one rocky hill climb near the top. Easy going after that. People who fear the diffuculty might want to go from east to west.
Bingo - we staged in Elkford and wanted to try Racehorse from west to east. got stopped by snow at about 6500'. There was a ton of run-off in places that really made for deep ruts on some of the climbs. The other side of the valley (Crossing Creek / Koko Claims) was in good shape - fun, long rocky climbs that make your arms feel like rubber at the top.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:39 PM   #2894
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Bingo - we staged in Elkford and wanted to try Racehorse from west to east. got stopped by snow at about 6500'. There was a ton of run-off in places that really made for deep ruts on some of the climbs. The other side of the valley (Crossing Creek / Koko Claims) was in good shape - fun, long rocky climbs that make your arms feel like rubber at the top.
That's cause that side has no soil... hahaha


I've only come from west to east on that one, but I've wanted to tackle that hill climb yet. It just goes on FOREVER!!!

Coming down is tiring on the arms too trying to hold it all back with a loaded bike. Creek Crossing / KoKo is a great crossing but not for the weak of heart.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:53 PM   #2895
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Hey Guys, nice to see some preliminary spring planning going on. Sorry I've been MIA, having a son caused the last 4 months to be a blur. I should have my Charriot mounting bracket from Touratec by spring and ready for some riding.

Trying to get my valves adjusted, but Anderwerks has never returned my calls, anyone know any other good BWM shops, I should just do it myself, but time is a precious commodity these days.

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