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Old 03-03-2013, 04:52 PM   #2971
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Thanks. I have pretty common bike with a good online community (Honda xr650L). I have done what you are talking about. Oil change, snapped off oil drain bolt using honda torque specs. Took it to honda to remove the snapped off bolt, was an expensive oil change haha. I agree learning by doing is better. Just don't want to screw something up and be without a bike until I can get somebody to bail me out.

Honda torque spec's on my XRR are way off too. When you turn enough wrenches you get a feel for it.

I don't mind showing people who to do stuff, but you have to remember many things are sometimes unique to your bike but the basics are there. Changing a tire, setting chain tension, pulling forks, greasing bearings, etc.

Wheel bearings using basic tools is a good one to know too.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #2972
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flossandfly,

ThumperTalk is a great source of information specific to your bike. The XR650 forum should give you a good idea which jobs can be done with simple tools and which require special tools, more hands than you have, etc.

My suggestion is to get a couple of torque wrenches and torque the fasteners as recommended by a reliable source. I have what I believe is an accurate 1/4" click-type torque wrench which is good for most fasteners on the engine, including the drain plug. I also have 3/8” and 1/2" beam-type torque wrenches for the bigger fasteners such as on the suspension linkage. Torque wrenches (especially beam-type) can be picked up at low cost (think Canadian Tire flyer).

There are sometimes conflicting torque values in different publications as you and Shibby may have experienced. It is important to know whether the torque values are based on dry or lubricated threads (big difference). It is also good to know which fasteners should have Loctite applied to them, and which strength. Once you think you’ve got your torque values established have faith in the equipment. If it requires 50 ft-lb don’t give it an extra tug after it reaches 50 ft-lb especially if aluminum fasteners are involved. If crush washers are involved replace them after a single use. I know they tend to be expensive but they do their job well if used once - more than once and you're starting to gamble. Most of this info should be available on the ThumperTalk forum (there is tons of info on the DRZ400 forum so I imagine there is for the XR650 as well).

The fun stuff happens when you start to get dirty. Leave yourself lots of time to do things the first time (hopefully at home) so you don’t add dirt to the mix, or get too stressed!

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Old 03-03-2013, 06:23 PM   #2973
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You have an XRL. Very little wrenching required. Oil changes and chain adjustments. Had 2 of these in the past. Great reliable bikes. Oh yea, tire changes which are easy. You've done the octopus removal and block off, right?
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:56 AM   #2974
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Thanks Ian and RED CAT. I have a decent torque wrench (bought it to be sure I put the wheels on right).

I got some great info from thumpertalk and 4strokes.com and youtube. Did the smog removal thanks to good instructions on 4strokes and a good youtube video. Now I have to risk looking really stupid but I bought new front brake pads and everyting makes sense except the step that says to open the calipers up a bit to make room for the new thicker pads. Instructions don't say to remove the wheel or the front brake assembly. I will go to thumpertalk and ask for help there.

You are right about the XR650L being pretty good as far as not needing much wrenching. I guess I just need to add a few new things to be self sufficient on the big red pig.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:51 AM   #2975
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Thanks Ian and RED CAT. I have a decent torque wrench (bought it to be sure I put the wheels on right).

I got some great info from thumpertalk and 4strokes.com and youtube. Did the smog removal thanks to good instructions on 4strokes and a good youtube video. Now I have to risk looking really stupid but I bought new front brake pads and everyting makes sense except the step that says to open the calipers up a bit to make room for the new thicker pads. Instructions don't say to remove the wheel or the front brake assembly. I will go to thumpertalk and ask for help there.

You are right about the XR650L being pretty good as far as not needing much wrenching. I guess I just need to add a few new things to be self sufficient on the big red pig.

Easiest to pop the caliper off, remove the pins, place the new pads/pins, spread them apart being careful to push pistons in as straight as possible (they aren't that fragile), and re-installing the caliper. Quick easy job.

There is a very small chance the piston(s) will want to come out once the caliper is off. Makes sure they don't by holding them in, or keep an eye on it.

Be careful as the pads may need some time to break in. Also note the first couple brake applications will have no results. Once the caliper is installed pump the lever a few times slowly to seat the pads against the rotor. Once seated confirm brake fluid level is correct. Essentially you should never "top up" your fluid because if you replace pads without removing that fluid you'll have issues of being overfilled. This could lead to brake drag, overheat, then unwanted brake being applied/lock-up.

It's a good time to do a brake fluid change if you haven't already, or if the fluid looks at all gray or darkened. Good project for the kids to help you out with (pumping the lever).
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:46 AM   #2976
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Thanks guys. Maybe I will be doing stoppies next time we ride.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:38 PM   #2977
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Any trip plans for people?

I might be doing Moab in May and Idaho / Oregon / Washington this summer.

Getting stoked!
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #2978
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Was it the snow that got you excited?!? It kinda had the opposite effect on me.

A bit bored at work today so I was starting to plan the run to Baja for next year, fast run to the border then a week in Baja, then blast back home.

This year doing the northern half of the "CDT" then wandering north across Idaho into Washington then through BC back roads home.

Sounds like fun. I always think bike trips so the snow is no real deterrent. I'm patient but know it's time to make plans so holidays work out, etc. Otherwise people book stuff up for b-days, weddings, and other stupid stuff =) More importantly they should be asking "When are we riding this year?!"

I have a buddy who's working at a camp this winter and he keeps me going by emailing me a few times a week about when and where. So just attempting to make rough outlines of trails to ride by gathering info from locals at the moment. It's a bit of an unwritten rule where I'm the route maker. That can be bad and good, since I find trails on google maps which can sometimes net us some pretty interesting situations.

Moab is more if I get a dirt bike, but I'm tempting to go either way. I had a blast on my XRR and this time won't be such a worry about damaging something before my trip. A dirt bike better suites the technical trails my friends will be riding though.

Baja is great fun if you can let go of the things you don't need here. If you need a spotless shower, air condition, clean riding gear, etc. It's not really the place for those individuals. It is fun to explore at your own will. It's a land where few rules apply, however it doesn't share the same crazy, yet extremely fun traffic riding the mainland does. It's more laid back. Everybody is super friendly. Many locals speak english, or some form of it. I'd try to allow more then one week though. It's nice to kick back in the mornings, walk the beach, then have a huge plate of Huevos Rancheros before saddling up. You don't make many miles when enjoying the ride and taking it in. My friends who rode this past October said it's not taking the recession well. I was there last Feb and November and it was quiet both times, but many of the areas got hit hard with hurricanes and I guess they are still showing plenty of damages, etc. With the lack of travelers it might be slowly returning to the area it once was. If you go, bring all the decals/stickers you can. The kids live for them down there. I probably have a bag of them yet I can give you before you leave. (I thought the mainland kids would want them too. Nope. No interest at all. You try to give Baja kids candy and they don't care, you give them a sticker and they're the happiest kid around)

Good riding on the CDT too. Not technical but fun riding with great scenery. Lots of drainage jumps, good corners for roosting around, and just getting "out there". I think it's a must do for everybody once in their life.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:46 PM   #2979
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Hey, I have a few XR650R parts if anyone wants them.

Coupla seats
Dirtbags w mounts
stock headlight/odo etc
stock exhaust
other misc parts
supermoto fender

They'll last til next weekend or so then they're going to the dump. Local pickup only. All or nothing

email me at wes at weshill dot com

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Old 03-04-2013, 08:00 PM   #2980
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Moab!

Bunch of us going mid April. First time for me. Should be fun.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:47 PM   #2981
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Hey, I have a few XR650R parts if anyone wants them.

Coupla seats
Dirtbags w mounts
stock headlight/odo etc
stock exhaust
other misc parts
supermoto fender

They'll last til next weekend or so then they're going to the dump. Local pickup only. All or nothing

email me at wes at weshill dot com

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I'm really shocked nobody has jumped on the Dirtbags and mounts. Pretty slick set-up for storing stuff if you aren't getting too silly and bent out of shape riding.

Even the seat pans. Hell, I'd take one off you so when I sell this bike I can keep the seat concepts!


Moab is good fun. It's like a different world. If you have time you have to do the White Rim Trail. One of the easier (yet longer) trails but the views are stunning and the riding is very fun. I think we did it in around 6 hours riding quickly be taking LOTS of pictures. We also stopped to take in the arches, etc. If it's hot I highly suggest an early departure. We left town at 7 I believe because it was supposed to be 38 or 40 C.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:33 AM   #2982
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If you have time you have to do the White Rim Trail. One of the easier (yet longer) trails but the views are stunning and the riding is very fun. I think we did it in around 6 hours riding quickly be taking LOTS of pictures.
Just watch out for Ranger Rick trying to enforce the ridiculously low speed limit on the White Rim Trail...
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:03 AM   #2983
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Just watch out for Ranger Rick trying to enforce the ridiculously low speed limit on the White Rim Trail...

Yea, we lucked out. We passed on at the start of the trail, then only seen a Ford Raptor about half way, then two jeeps at the very end. Otherwise we were by ourselfs doing WELL over the speed limit. haha.

I imagine there would be more of a presence during peak seasons.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:35 AM   #2984
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Yea, we lucked out. We passed on at the start of the trail, then only seen a Ford Raptor about half way, then two jeeps at the very end. Otherwise we were by ourselfs doing WELL over the speed limit. haha.

I imagine there would be more of a presence during peak seasons.
We did the rim counter clockwise and there were a few corners on the last third that could have been pretty intresting at speed...

Having ridden Moab a few times I learned the value of riding within your sight lines.

The last time in Moab we did the onion creek road, not difficult at all, but really unique and scenic for the area.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:28 PM   #2985
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Thanks for the info and vids. Luckily I'm going to Moab with guys that have been going for the last 5 years.
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