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Old 08-06-2013, 01:19 PM   #3451
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too many rules these days saying where and what you can do.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:12 PM   #3452
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When I was a kid, we used to ride dirtbikes in Edworthy Park. Those were the days.....

It's a matter of a few hooligans ruining it for everyone. These guys keep traveling into closed areas and tearing it up, so the government resorts to drastic measures to prevent it.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:34 AM   #3453
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When I was a kid, we used to ride dirtbikes in Edworthy Park. Those were the days.....

It's a matter of a few hooligans ruining it for everyone. These guys keep traveling into closed areas and tearing it up, so the government resorts to drastic measures to prevent it.

Sadly, I don't think that's the case anymore. Yes, some people abuse areas. I do not argue with that, however remote mountain passes that see a handful of bikes a year should not be closed.

The government has given up on us. With the ill informed public backing their decisions, they say "close it down", yet don't enforce these rules only making the problem worse. Wiaparous is seeing more use then ever and Mclean has more new trails popping up all the time.

It's a big mess. I can't stand it anymore.

The problem is more people enjoying the outdoors and the reduction in trails only compounds the problems. Has anybody seen a green, lush feed lot before?

With proper enforcement (annual fees can help pay for this) they should be opening areas. Local users should be volunteering their time to improve trails and help sustainability.

Their main reasons why not?

1) Water. We aren't hurting the water supply. Farmers cows shitting and pissing in the water or their fertilizer in run-off is FAR, FAR worse.

2) The forest. That doesn't count when the following year it's all gone.

3) Fish. We aren't hurt the fish. Minimizing water crossings is pretty easy, but strangely enough the "legal" trails cross the water more often than the illegal trails...


Too many rules. Soon we're going to be the new California. Have you ever heard a person from California say good things about their state?

I know this sounds all pretty petty, but it's gotten to the point I'm considering moving. The states has become ever more appealing to me on many levels. Most of my trips to the states has an underlining plan to search out places I'd sooner live.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:47 PM   #3454
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Sadly, I don't think that's the case anymore. Yes, some people abuse areas. I do not argue with that, however remote mountain passes that see a handful of bikes a year should not be closed.

The government has given up on us. With the ill informed public backing their decisions, they say "close it down", yet don't enforce these rules only making the problem worse. Wiaparous is seeing more use then ever and Mclean has more new trails popping up all the time.

It's a big mess. I can't stand it anymore.

The problem is more people enjoying the outdoors and the reduction in trails only compounds the problems. Has anybody seen a green, lush feed lot before?

With proper enforcement (annual fees can help pay for this) they should be opening areas. Local users should be volunteering their time to improve trails and help sustainability.

Their main reasons why not?

1) Water. We aren't hurting the water supply. Farmers cows shitting and pissing in the water or their fertilizer in run-off is FAR, FAR worse.

2) The forest. That doesn't count when the following year it's all gone.

3) Fish. We aren't hurt the fish. Minimizing water crossings is pretty easy, but strangely enough the "legal" trails cross the water more often than the illegal trails...


Too many rules. Soon we're going to be the new California. Have you ever heard a person from California say good things about their state?

I know this sounds all pretty petty, but it's gotten to the point I'm considering moving. The states has become ever more appealing to me on many levels. Most of my trips to the states has an underlining plan to search out places I'd sooner live.
I feel your frustration, I would be happy to pay a yearly fee to go riding in the mountains so that the gov. can afford to monitor and maintain along with volunteers. I was in Rexford MT this past weekend, does anybody know what kind of riding there is in NE MT or NW Idaho?
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:13 PM   #3455
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Northwest Montana, and Northwest Idaho are GREAT! I was just there and had a blast. Fuel is 60% cheaper than B.C. as well and 40% cheaper than Alberta. Nice added bonus and leaves cash for other things.
I thought that might be the case. I think im going to be seriously considering land in NE MT in the next few years for a cabin near koocanusa and lots of dual sporting near by...
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:57 PM   #3456
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Northwest Montana, and Northwest Idaho are GREAT! I was just there and had a blast. Fuel is 60% cheaper than B.C. as well and 40% cheaper than Alberta. Nice added bonus and leaves cash for other things.

Not to mention food, service (of all kinds), housing, etc.

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I thought that might be the case. I think im going to be seriously considering land in NE MT in the next few years for a cabin near koocanusa and lots of dual sporting near by...
Check out Priest Lake. I really liked it. Not a lake without people, but still very nice. Tons of cabins around it.

The riding along the MT and Idaho border is great. Nearly endless. Not to mention it's very diverse AND closer to Colorado and Utah.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:42 PM   #3457
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Eureka, Montana

You don't have to go far. Eureka is only 4 hours away and has some fantastic riding in every direction. Stay at the Ksanka Motel and clover leaf it. Few of us will be there in a week or so. Better Adventure riding than Dualsport riding though. Or maybe I just don't know where the good Dualsporting is. Just north of the border from there is great for sure in the Lake K. area.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:57 PM   #3458
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You don't have to go far. Eureka is only 4 hours away and has some fantastic riding in every direction. Stay at the Ksanka Motel and clover leaf it. Few of us will be there in a week or so. Better Adventure riding than Dualsport riding though. Or maybe I just don't know where the good Dualsporting is. Just north of the border from there is great for sure in the Lake K. area.

The Kooc area has great trails for bikes of all sizes. Mostly non-technical but still very fun. Small to medium bikes will enjoy it more, but still good for big adventure bikes to have some fun on trails. Some deep sand in select spots and lots of whoops, but I find I really start to enjoy those, at least a few times a year.

Problem is dust. Prime season is late and early seasons. When ours are ending, or haven't started, theirs is prime riding time.

We normally do a few trips in the fall and spring to end and start the "summer" season. Then onto winter once the snow falls enough to spoon on the studs.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:17 PM   #3459
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Powderface Trail!

5 new bridges. No reason for it to be closed to motorcyclists or bicyclist. Few narrow soft spots for vehicles though. Nothing happening on it right now as far as new construction.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:10 PM   #3460
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:00 PM   #3461
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I know this sounds all pretty petty, but it's gotten to the point I'm considering moving. The states has become ever more appealing to me on many levels. Most of my trips to the states has an underlining plan to search out places I'd sooner live.[/QUOTE]


Until you crash and need healthcare. Then ur fuct.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:31 PM   #3462
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I know this sounds all pretty petty, but it's gotten to the point I'm considering moving. The states has become ever more appealing to me on many levels. Most of my trips to the states has an underlining plan to search out places I'd sooner live.

Until you crash and need healthcare. Then ur fuct.[/QUOTE]

My son and nephew live in the States,( both Canadians), finding a job and a green card was problematic.... unless you join the military or marry an American.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:13 AM   #3463
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Edworthy Park?? That'd been rad!! Can't even imagine now a days!
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:02 PM   #3464
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Thumb Lost Creek Trail, lost riders, but FUN!

Great ride today in Waiporous! Hot, not a cloud in the sky. Did Lost Knife Creek, (the name was a premonition of things to come...), enjoyed the view from the top of Jamie's Hill, then got lost, (now the adventure part starts!), battery died (more adventure - think its got a bad cell) trying to get through some boggy sections, got a jump from some nice 4x4'ers, turned around to retrace our steps.

I realized today that I am getting too old to muscle 400lbs of bike through the puddles and bogs... especially in the heat. Guess its time to keep the big girl on the gravel and 2-track where she belongs and get the dirt bike out (doh!) Funny but I had 3 different groups tell me they couldn't believe I was riding the 640 out there! Initially, I didn't think it was any big deal, but by the time I talked to the third group 30 mins from the end, I too didn't believe it (was a good idea) either! It's not that the bike isn't capable, it's me that's the weaker link! I was full-body and mind tired after 5 hours!

Growing up out there from the early 70's on before moving away in 1991, Waiporous has changed drastically. I have only been back a handful of times in the mid 2000's and a couple times since, and the devastation of the trails (and visible clear-cuts) is most noticeable. Kind of sad, but she still has lots of beautiful vistas available.

Didn't see a ranger anywhere. One guy said they are trying to clamp down on headlights and tail lights this year, so bad for my MX riding friend Pieter. It was his first ever dirt bike experience on board a 1998 KX 250 (has ridden a lot of street.) Aside from wishing he had 3" longer legs so he could touch the ground, he did phenomenal today! He will add the lights for the next ride.

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Old 08-12-2013, 06:51 PM   #3465
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Ram river bridge

Just wanted to let you all know that as of saturday, the bridge over the Ram river, on the Trunk road was still closed, but being worked on.
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