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Old 01-21-2014, 07:33 PM   #3991
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Ccm gp450

Hey All,
As we poor Calgarians missed the Albertan debut of CCM's new bike at the show (Edmonton got it the dirty buggers...) they are showing it off Monday night for us. I'd like to think my inquiry across the pond to CCM Headquarters brought about this special showing but I doubt my influence is that great... I did like that both CCM (UK) and OMS had their responses to me in less than a day.

The bike GP450 is going to be about $12000 give or take.

email convo below.

Hello Paul, the bike will be here at the shop between 6 and 9 pm , Monday evening Jan. 27th
cheers,
Jeff

Come down and see our selection of classic bikes.
View at Old Motorcycle Shop
4240 - 16 Street SE
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Saturday 10-3
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To: oms1615@hotmail.com
Subject: CCM meet and greet
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:06:46 -0700

Good afternoon
I emailed the guys at CCM to see where we could get a look at their new GP450 bike.
Alice Flook and Michael Wells (both in the UK I think) gave me your info and said that the bike was planned to be shown off on the 27th at your shop.
What time are you having the preview event? There will be three of us interested in coming over.
Thanks
Paul
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:27 AM   #3992
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Damn. Too bad im going to miss this. The bike looks awesome. I hope someone will ask about a demo day???? First bike ive ever considered buying new. Hmmmmm
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:42 PM   #3993
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I called the Old Motorcycle Shop about next Monday. I'll be there!
Me too - hope the CCM makes an appearance as planned. The email I got from the shop said "the bike us in Abbotsford for the bike show. Then returning here weather permitting for 6-9pm monday"
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:10 PM   #3994
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Rode out of the South Ghost staging area yesterday. It's a tough slog on the trails... very deep snow in places. I think I'll wait for a bit more melting before getting back out on the studs.
A tough ride for sure. Last few weeks has been a workout in frustration.

That ccm bike looks great. Ridiculous that a small company from England is the first to crack a very high demand market. Good on them. I hope Honda, suzy, and yamaha take note. We don't need more bloated machines.
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:33 AM   #3995
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Like the 990?
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:59 AM   #3996
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Like the 990?
Technically, the 990 is now one of those smaller bikes KTM has dicontinued in leu of an 1190:( lol
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:43 PM   #3997
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Like the 990?
The 990 is fine, but it's no adventurized 450. Most of the dual sporting around here is a struggle with a 990. The gravel roads and what not are fine and where it wins in the comparison, but it's the passes and the "not planned" stuff that become very difficult with a bike it's size.

Yamaha was going in the right direction with the WR250R, but messed up it's displacement. I understand it probably sells well because of this reason, but small fairing, WR450 tuned down (it's already a great motor), and remain carbed would be amazing. FI is probably required to meet emissions so I guess we can go that route with the new WR.

Something that can do a few hours on the pavement comfortably, days or weeks offroad without service, and be able to carry some soft luggage and good size gas tank would be great.

This CCM is the most promising thing so far for that. Funny thing is everything I considered important, the 650R I have now does as well as any other. Really has me thinking. It's as simple as it gets, has a massive tank, good fuel mileage, handling, etc. Damn 2000km oil changes and 4000km valve checks though. At least that's what I do. Might be overkill.

BTW, saw you on deerhoof. I was going the other direction in a Tundra pulling a trailer with 72" ductwork.


Who's up for more dual sport trips this summer? I finally have more time off work and want to make some 3-4 day loops often. Maybe some exploring further west.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:07 PM   #3998
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http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=913598 (forgot to add the link earlier)

An old mountain bike acquaintance (Radek) and some pals including a 2 up couple show what 990's do in capable and determined hands. I agree a smaller bike is easier. I've never liked easy. Stubborn that way. Plus, I wanna have enough power to enjoy my ride to the trail. Were both tires on the ground when you saw me?

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Old 01-24-2014, 08:13 PM   #3999
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I'm not saying they aren't capable. For long trips in countries where you don't need HP, they come with a lot of complexity, difficult to work on, expensive, and sometimes non-fixable problems that may arise. For riding in N.A they are a great bike and it's on my short list of bikes to own soon. Preferably the 950 carb'd version.

For long range trips, technical rides, weekend rips into the mountains, etc, a 450 packs plenty of punch. All my buddies dual sport 350, 450 and 570's now. Myself and one other buddy are the only ones on 650R's and although still very capable, they do take extra effort on the tight stuff. Things like lifting bikes over logs, dragging up river embankments, etc all become much more difficult with a bike that weighs 100+ lbs more.

It was great day for a ride. Wish I would have took my bike to work as well. Instead I brought my dog.. He was pretty stoked about that though.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:35 PM   #4000
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Yeah. I wouldn't take this bike to countries that I may not be able to get support in. And it is expensive. It's also the most fun I've had on a bike. I'd get a 450 if I was doing that stuff. But I'm not. And I don't work Fridays. I wasn't commuting, I was riding. Sorry. Had to rub that in! ;) cheers.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:58 PM   #4001
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Is about all the dirt you can do on an Adventure or Dualsport bike overall around here, unless you trailer your bike. The rest, 70% is to and from the dirt. Mostly paved stuff. So as good as 650s/450s are in the dirt, they suck on the road compared to 990s/1200s. 990s and 1200s are even better on gravel roads. Faster and more comfortable and certainly more fun! Big roost fun that is. Don't get me wrong. If I was going to South America it would be on a Japanese 650. But most of the time you end up riding around here, so I believe big adventure bikes offer more, over all. I rode 650XRLs for years around here and after riding the bigger stuff, theres no way I'd go back to singles. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:24 AM   #4002
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Service Intervals on a 450...

Aren't that critical. Heck, a lot of dudes ride Baja and change oil every 1000 miles on a 450 (or when the sight glass is low just add more). Fwiw, there is no "do everything" bike. There just isn't. I used to think that about a 650 single, but I don't anymore. My 990 is better at some things than the 450, but the 450 is better at other things than the 990. I would ride both in the same places, but my riding would be different due to let's call it "talent". When my "talent" runs out on either bike I wish I was riding the other one, lol! Anyway you dice it, there are compromises. Saying one bike will do everything is like saying you can do trials on a CBR1000RR. It's a unicorn beast. I'm content to make sacrifices and just ride and deal with it.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:33 AM   #4003
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Calgarians that dualsport

[ Saying one bike will do everything is like saying you can do trials on a CBR1000RR. It's a unicorn beast. I'm content to make sacrifices and just ride and deal with it.[/QUOTE]


Don't be so sure. I'll bet this guy was told the same thing.
http://youtu.be/7ZmJtYaUTa0


I'm kidding of coarse, but this is pretty rad.
And there is nothing better than showing up at the end of a trail on a big 990 and people wonder how the fuck you got it there. Haha. But I admit, a 350 would be amazeballs to blast around on.
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And there is nothing better than showing up at the end of a trail on a big 990 and people wonder how the fuck you got it there. Haha. But I admit, a 350 would be amazeballs to blast around on.
I agree... I never ever get tired of seeing guys on 250's look at me like, " How the f&%k did you even get here?" when I show up somewhere on the 990... LOL!

But yes... Having a smaller bike allows you to "push it" a little harder with less consequences. I've grown out of the "one bike to rule them all" mindset. I have specific bikes for every kind of hooliganism I take part in, :)

Now... That being said... If I only had the CHOICE of having one bike... It would be a big single ala XR650R or 690/640 KTM or any big single except a KLR, haha!

Trails I couldn't do on my 990:
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:24 PM   #4005
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All I'd like is there to be closer representations of the "unicorn"

Tuned down 450/500, basic comfort, good suspension, relaxed service intervals, good stator and lighting (or at least good stator), not weigh too much, and simple design.

I can dream..
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