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Old 11-13-2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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Hi from a n00b

G'day folks,

Been reading widely in this forum; lotsa good info.

I'm looking at moving on from the sportsbike and going 'dual sport'. Started my riding career on 2-stroke trailies and had a TDM850 at one stage.

In the sights at the mo are the F800GS and R1200GS. Will test ride the boxer tomorrow. The dealer doesn't have a demo 800 so that will come later.

I really have to decide how serious I am about dirt riding. The 1200 with luggage would be impossible to pick up after an off. Could barely manage the sportsbike at 210 kg after a sidestand roll-off.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:56 PM   #2
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:01 PM   #3
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Triumphs are harder to pick up they don't have a dirty great cylinders sticking out the side stopping them from lying flat on the ground
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:06 PM   #4
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:14 PM   #5
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Triumphs are harder to pick up they don't have a dirty great cylinders sticking out the side stopping them from lying flat on the ground
And that's always a good thing...............

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Old 11-13-2013, 06:27 PM   #6
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And that's always a good thing...............
- which is why if you think there's the slightest chance of dropping your 1200GS you should have the protective covers and the crash bars.

You (OP) might be surprised at picking up the big GS, because they don't fully lie down it's not that hard.

My problem is on uneven ground when stopped - if you lose your footing and it starts to go over, there's no stopping it. It insists!
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:11 PM   #7
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Thanks guys.

Yeah, a jug out the side improves the lifting biz.

Do you think the dealer will allow me to demo it?

Trumpys I have looked into. I had a Sprint 955 that was a wunnerful sports-tourer but oh the faults and returns; argh.

I gather the best Bavarians can aggravate in the same way so I've adjusted my expectations of a premium-price machine.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:20 PM   #8
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To add ...

I'm leaning twds the 1200 . All that traction and suspender electrikery has to be tried once before I die.

There's a 5 month waiting period for the '14 models. That's OK. It'll cost 5 months of my income.

Meantime, research proceeds apace on protection (wot, a condom won't do?!) and luggage.

There's another small fortune.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #9
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I'm leaning twds the 1200 . All that traction and suspender electrikery has to be tried once before I die.

There's a 5 month waiting period for the '14 models.
If you insist on getting the WC adventure, yes. But some dealers might still have the 90th anniversary 2013 1200 Adventure, ride away $24,990 (no I don't work for any dealers).

I was happy to go with that, came with all the doo-dads and it's a well developed engine. I wasn't keen on going with the very first version of the WC.

The TC is pretty amazing, blast away from the lights at maximum speed without pulling a wheelie makes it feel like a rocket glued to the road.

Although I did stall it a couple times taking off on bitumen that had a sprinkling of gravel, I felt the rear slip and backed off the throttle but the TC also backed off, at least that's how it felt.

Love the ESA too. Perhaps it's even better on the WC though.

I agonized over what Adv bike to buy for 4 years, it could have been any of the usual suspects - but I did lust after the 1200 and am not disappointed at all. Nothing prepares you for the size and weight of it until you ride it - feels nimble when moving but a beast when stopped.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:22 PM   #10
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Thanks for sharing your experience b&s.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Looking at the std LC 1200GS.

The '14 model I gather should have switchgear and steering wobbles sorted.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:46 PM   #11
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I really have to decide how serious I am about dirt riding. ?

If your zeroing in a 1200 - you've made you're decision already. ie You're not serious about dirt riding.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:08 PM   #12
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Yeah, I take your point.

But dirt riding covers a multitude of sins.

Outback roads/tracks in Aus?

Some yes, some no. You don't know til you're out there.

I've done some of the 'iconic' roads/tracks in my Forester; that's what I've learned.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:31 PM   #13
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That will buff right out.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:37 PM   #14
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have a look at the super ten, if your looking at touring/dirt
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:49 PM   #15
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PBee, I've been looking at head cover protectors. What's that one?

Thanks for the suggestion mickd. I'm a long-time Yammie fan but the kgs on the big Ten are too much.
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