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Old 04-30-2010, 12:47 PM   #1516
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how much extra for the clear pocket on the left forearm (Lombard suit)
$30 for the clearn pocket on left arm..
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:19 PM   #1517
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Thanks a lot, GBW. Know I just need to convince her that it is worth it to spend the extra cash on the suits for us!

Can anyone comment on the fit for women?
I can....for an off the rack suit designed to fit a man, the suit fits me fairly well and in general, I'm happy with it. I'm 5'8, 150# with a 38" chest and I have a meduim.

In your earlier post you said your fiancee has big boobs...that ain't me. That said, I can wear multiple layers, including my Gerbings heated jacket and I still have room. Not alot, but enough that I can move freely. I have some windproof fleece pants I can wear underneath and still have room to move.

I threw away the liner. It's worthless. It's bulky and makes putting the suit on and off a real chore.

Hope this helps!
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:54 PM   #1518
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need to put foot to ass with your web guy Ghazi, (in a good way, unless you ARE the web guy too) I only tried on my jacket quickly at work for fitment b/c, well I was at work.. had some time on my hands today after work so i monkey'd around with it and every time i turned it around i found a new feature, layer, or something i didn't know it had, like the rain hood, and schnazzy waterproof zippers. it's got two liners i see now, i removed the insulated one, is the thinner single layer of fabric the waterproof layer? I'm sure it's in the description, but I'm more of a visual guy so i only read every other word, and the red type showing it's on sale. you've gotta "pimp" your goods some more and get some better pics up of the little details and move some more product.
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:19 PM   #1519
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Absolutely DO NOT MIX Silicone and fluorocarbon Durable Water Repellents. You will RUIN your ability to recoat the fibers, as the two DO NOT MIX.

MOST factory applied DWR is of the flourocarbon type.

Atsko DOES makes a fluorocarbon based waterguard. It used to be the green spray cans, but it might be the "Waterguard Extreme" now.

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nikwax or
this stuff from walmart
http://www.atsko.com/products/waterp...ter-guard.html

follow the directions.
do it outside.
dont put it on the sticky bottom (at least for the lombard)

^^^ learned about this from skierd
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:55 PM   #1520
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Absolutely DO NOT MIX Silicone and fluorocarbon Durable Water Repellents. You will RUIN your ability to recoat the fibers, as the two DO NOT MIX.

MOST factory applied DWR is of the flourocarbon type.

Atsko DOES makes a fluorocarbon based waterguard. It used to be the green spray cans, but it might be the "Waterguard Extreme" now.
I dont think the lombard came with factory waterproofing.
so once i use the atsko (orange cap), i shouldn't use something like nikwax later on??
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:07 PM   #1521
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I dont think the lombard came with factory waterproofing.
so once i use the atsko (orange cap), i shouldn't use something like nikwax later on??
Nikwax is a wax based DWR. I haven't read anything specific on the mixing of wax with the others.

Most, if not all nylon/polyester technical fabrics are coated with a DWR from the mill they are produced from. If the lombard beaded water at all when it arrived, then it had a coating.

What happens when you coat a fluorocarbon dwr with silicone is that some sticks, but is otherwise repelled by the fluorocarbon. So it is water-repellent for a very short time. However, if you try to coat it with a fluorocarbon based DWR again, the residual silicone will repel that!

The net result is that you get a garment that wets out very easily .
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:07 AM   #1522
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Wow !!!

What a thread. I had to read throught it all before going to bed. Great posts and replies and customer service

I'm close to purchasing a Lombard and have a question seeing as some things came up during the read.....

For the guys who have had the Lombard.....Anyone DISLIKE the fact that the zips run up instead of down?

Can anyone comment on sleeve length as far as it feels shorter or longer than expected? I'm on the long arm side so I don't want it to fit too short.

How about photos of the liner outside of its shell.


Of course I need to decided on size now I'm stuck between ordering a M,L or M-Tall..

I appreciate everyones input....all 1525 posts
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:24 AM   #1523
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i'm a long arm/long torso and i have a regular ventura jacket, and it's spot on. i was warned, long is LONG.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:35 PM   #1524
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I couldn't wait for your responses so I just had to order one --grey.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:42 PM   #1525
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What a thread. ...... Great posts and replies and customer service .............For the guys who have had the Lombard.....Anyone DISLIKE the fact that the zips run up instead of down?......
Thanks for the support and the order.
There are multiple opinions on the zip direction. we feel this works well because its one motion of going down and coming up. you will be able to form an opinion soon :)
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:03 AM   #1526
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Thanks for the support and the order.
There are multiple opinions on the zip direction. we feel this works well because its one motion of going down and coming up. you will be able to form an opinion soon :)
You're welcome
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:09 AM   #1527
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Nikwax is a wax based DWR. I haven't read anything specific on the mixing of wax with the others.

Most, if not all nylon/polyester technical fabrics are coated with a DWR from the mill they are produced from. If the lombard beaded water at all when it arrived, then it had a coating.

What happens when you coat a fluorocarbon dwr with silicone is that some sticks, but is otherwise repelled by the fluorocarbon. So it is water-repellent for a very short time. However, if you try to coat it with a fluorocarbon based DWR again, the residual silicone will repel that!

The net result is that you get a garment that wets out very easily .
So GHAZI, does the Lombard come with any factory waterproofing?

Is it safe to put a silicone based spray on it?

I just bought a bunch of cans from walmart, dangit!!
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:00 AM   #1528
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So GHAZI, does the Lombard come with any factory waterproofing?

Is it safe to put a silicone based spray on it?

I just bought a bunch of cans from walmart, dangit!!
hello,
no it does not come with any factory water proofing and you can use silicone based sprays. they actually work very well with the lombard
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:10 AM   #1529
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Ghazi

I checked my order status and the payment is listed as: IPN Verified [Completed (Unverified)]

Is this normal since the product hasn't yet shipped, or do I need to do something?

Thanks

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:01 PM   #1530
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Ghazi

I checked my order status and the payment is listed as: IPN Verified [Completed (Unverified)]

Is this normal since the product hasn't yet shipped, or do I need to do something?

Thanks

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worry not. everythin is fine with yr order
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